Why would anyone want Mao to wake up? The fuck kind of genocide denialism is this?
Sir, this is lemmy.ml. They think every bad thing you’ve heard about china is a CIA psyop
Not everything bad about China is CIA propaganda. They have a long way to go, economically and socially. At the same time, there’s factually a large anti-PRC budget for US propaganda, largely stemming from the large amount of friction faced when dealing with a socialist country in the world capitalist market. It’s accelerated because the PRC is currently surpassing the US in many key metrics, and is charted to do so in other areas in the coming years.
Yeah, when I said “every” I didn’t mean that literally. But at least 3-4 of the bigger ones. Which is a lot. Especially since I’ve talked to actual Chinese people that live in China that are less delusional. But you do you.
I’ve also talked to actual Chinese people that live in China, too. The Marxists are more correct about China than the liberals, by quite a laughably large margin.
Yeah, but that’s because the liberals that you’re talking about are only liberals in name only and they think that China is some autocratic hellscape. It’s easy to be closer to the truth than those people. Also you’re both wrong. As is almost always the case, the truth is somewhere in the middle. But we’re on .ml, so ofc people will disagree with me on that
Not everything bad about China is CIA propaganda. They have a long way to go, economically and socially. At the same time, there’s factually a large anti-PRC budget for US propaganda, largely stemming from the large amount of friction faced when dealing with a socialist country in the world capitalist market. It’s accelerated because the PRC is currently surpassing the US in many key metrics, and is charted to do so in other areas in the coming years.
Which part of this do you disagree with? You’re being a contrarion at this point, I outright stated that not everything bad about China is a lie, just that a huge portion of it is. You just stated that “the truth is in the middle,” but what I stated above already acknowledges that while good overall, China has a long way to go socially and economically. In fact, the fact that they largely succeed in their planning and are continuously improving both shows how far they have come and how far they have to go.
People are disagreeing with you moreso because you’re just picking fights and playing the contrarion.
I’m not picking “fights”, lol. I haven’t replied to a .ml thread in months. And I’m not getting into that because I have before and almost none of you have budged an inch.
Not on Tiananmen Square(yeah, it didn’t happen in the actual square, doesn’t mean nothing happened),
not on the Uyghur situation(just because they’re not getting genocided like the gazans doesn’t mean “education camps” is a socially acceptable thing to put someone through),
not on the fact that the metrics that you’re using to compare don’t paint the full picture(such as the whole green energy thing when in reality they’re still one of the highest CO2 emitting countries per capita)
nor on fact that you keep pretending that state capitalism = socialism, which is not. Just because a place is better than the USA doesn’t mean that it’s a good place.
Socially, yeah… Even worse xD I agree, they have tons of work ahead of them. And on certain issues (such as LGBTQ), they’re not really progressing.
Okay, so I felt I needed to reply to that for some reason. But like I said, I’ve talked about these things before, with you included, and you’ve never budged, so I’m not getting back into it. So unless you need to reply for someone else, don’t bother replying to me cause I’m not gonna respond anymore.
