Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.
Jon von Tetzchner, CEO and founder of Vivaldi Technologies, refuses to integrate AI features in its browser and wants human engineers, not AI, to write its code.
Seems much of Lemmy is still married to Firefox despite all their slop and Alphabet funding.
I’m going to keep beating the Vivaldi drum as their mission has always been clear. Yes I understand the chromium backbone, but as long as uBlock continues to work I’m staying on board.
You can like one thing without having to shit on the other. Firefox is fine. Vivaldi is cool. Simple as that. Not everything is a team sport.
The browser wars require browser fighting words, I am always happy to hear critique about these products… especially in 2026 when the corpo’s meta game is to completely stifle any and all bad PR / reviews / discussion.
Nah, they don’t just like it; they’re married to it. And with that into the clan that wanders around the steppes, downvoting every thing that challenges them and their beloved. This is, in essence, The Browser War that really doesn’t have any other participants.
Is their beloved good? lol, well it’s constantly in the news for all the wrong reasons. Is it a good experience? If you’re into being a sub, yes. Does it perform well? Such questions are not allowed in the clan, but they believe it to be so based on clan size.
Most of all, they swear against Chromium, but park their Steam icons right next to Firefox on their desktop trays.
There is no mercy for anyone seen not using Firefox. Mixed-browser friendships are an abomination. Not caring much about extensions is death.
You seem to have got all worked up over this.
Just so you know, caring about what browser someone uses and recommending one are two separate things.
I couldnt give a fuck if you use Vivaldi, Chrome, Safari, Firefox, Edge or anything else. I just prefer to recommend the open source ones, that are not holding a massive market share and run on an engine that is controlled by Google.
Like, relax, use Chrome to your heart’s content, if that is what makes you happy.
He gets worked up over lots of things. It’s an old account with no comment history that sprung up in the last few days being oddly aggressive and toxic.
It is weird.
I wasn’t even talking about browsers… Sort of just a loose comparison of Firefox fans and the hordes of Genghis. You can pretend they’re fans of something else, if you like.
I’m not shitting, just explaining reason I don’t like it.
Seems more like you’re explaining why you think others shouldn’t like it.
Try not to read into it too much.
You typed it out to be read. Now you don’t want people to read to much in to it after I guess not liking the reception.
I typed out why I don’t like it. I know exactly how people here feel about Firefox. It’s very predictable. Its the one AI software they will defend tirelessly.
What browser do you use? If you hate Chrome and Firefox, that’s really going to limit your choices. Derivatives of both of those must be forbidden too because all of those would cease to exist if the base browsers vanished.
Something WebKit based? Or are you using something based on the Goanna fork of Gecko?
Who’s hating, I thi k maybe you responded to the wrong comment?
Was this you?:
Your wording appeared to imply a solid dislike for Alphabet which I then took to be transferred onto their own browser - Chrome - and the browser who takes Alphabet’s dime - Firefox.
I can see that there might be other ways to interpret that sentence and get the true shade of meaning you intended, but I’m not sure which one it is if it isn’t the one I thought it was.
Demonstrating that you’re not on the same team!
Definitely a free thinker! Not big on teams.
so you are worried about the alphabet funding but use a chromium based browser?
Right. This is really. Really fucking weird.
Yes, I said that, why is this phrased as a question? Money has a huge influence. I’d rather use something thats getting something free from gooe (chromium core) than a something from a company getting paid by them
there’s also something to be said for having a backwards-compatible configuration and history that stretches over 25 years. it’s why i stayed on gecko when switching browser.
Edit: apparently vivaldi is closed-source? huh.
Not really closed source all the way, only aspects of it. It’s still both weird and offputting, but it is slightly different.
By only aspects of it they mean the chromium base. What makes vivaldi not the same as chromium is proprietary
It was my understanding that the closed source part was limited to their visual aspects, as the functional changes they make have to adhere to the licence of chromium. Unless that’s changed; I haven’t looked into it in a couple of years. It’s where their “skin” applies that they keep it proprietary in other words.
What?
The official words: https://vivaldi.com/blog/technology/why-isnt-vivaldi-browser-open-source/
UBlock origin is just so much better than any other ad blocker, and it’s Firefox’s main feature.
So Firefox main feature is something made not by Firefox? That’s a little sad. Why not use uBlock on Vivaldi?
Because it’s chromium-based and Google broke that possibility on purpose. It’s what they get for being Google’s bitch.
It works just fine if you aren’t using chrome. It’s not broke in chromium.
Googles bitch? You mean firefox? The company that wouldn’t exist without a regular paycheck from google?
That Chromium backbone is exactly why. Firefox or forks of it are preferred. Other browsers using different engines can also be recommended, but I only know of some WIP projects right now. Also, Vivaldi is proprietary, not open source.
Oh wait it’s Chromium?! I have things that need that to work, so even tho I EXCLUSIVELY use FF forks for browsing on my computer, I have to dip into edge (eww) for those web applets to work. Would Vavldi be a good alternative? Better than… ugh… BRAVE, anyway?
Yes, Vivaldi is a good chromium browser when some oddball site doesn’t work.
You know what works great with FF&Forks; ad-blockers that aren’t sellouts.
Perfect, I’ll snag that for the like four hardware things I have that need Chromium for settings, and continue using FF forks for anything real!
I’d recommend helium, it’s my favorite chromium browser because it’s fairly customizable and very privacy-respecting. I’d say it’s like the librewolf of chromium, for lack of a better comparison.
Thank you! That sounds even better, I’ll look into that!
Yeah, or just use Ungoogled Chromium, that’s about as raw as it gets without any proprietary shit.
IE6 teaches us that a multi-engine web is best, though…
Firefox is still the better browser, and frankly I can’t just get over that anything else is simply chrome with a skin.
I like Vivaldi, it is my secondary browser, but Firefox is preferred. But good for you, anything is better than Brave. Vivaldi has some great aspirations of being a suite like Mozilla was back in the day, but if they want to do that, they need to make their upgrades not break their sync. The fact that happens so often makes me worry a little about their overall system.
It is really important that no single project or company dominates the web. Any browser based on chromium is not going to be well received by people concerned about current engine diversity. Whatever people think of the Mozilla corp or foundation and their stewardship, there is a strong public interest in promoting wider use of the Gecko engine and any other Blink alternatives. Many here will be running forks like librewolf to remove Firefox features we don’t want or trust.
In a healthy ecosystem people will use a diversity of products that suit their individual tastes and needs and that is fine. Advocates warning against over dependence on Chromium are doing it with very good intentions. We don’t need everyone to switch. We only need enough to avoid a mono-culture and the death of the open web. There is plenty of room left for diversity and freedom of choice.
The majority don’t even think about what browser they are using and use what is installed by default. They are the real battle. If a fraction of them did some research and made an informed choice, even if many chose Chromium browsers, the ecosystem would be much healthier.
Continuing to use Firefox so that Google has to keep wasting their money on it to avoid the antitrust lawsuit >>>
As someone who’s extremely picky about my browsers/extensions/etc AND who’s forced to use Edge and Chrome at work…. I make due with Firefox because everything else is just off enough that I can’t commit to ‘em longterm
Does casting tabs to a TV work?
Why would you cast tabs specifically to a TV and not just cast to the entire TV Itself and just make it a big pseudo monitor? 🤔
Because if you’re just casting a video, you can still use your PC/phone while it’s playing.
But you can do that if you cast directly from desktop too lol, maybe I’m just misunderstanding what exactly is going on here. I swear it’s way simpler / reliable to just cast directly from the OS, at least in my experience 🤷