• Tomorrow_Farewell@lemmy.ml
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    16 hours ago

    The colonialism we did with a navy that was about 20% Irish and an army that was about 30% Irish? Ireland hardly innocent on that front.

    This says nothing about the relations of unequal exchange, unlike how the British Empire engaged in policies like preventing the affected by the famine in Ireland from accessing food.

    Admittedly, it’s quite hard to do a potato famine to someone. It’s more a thing you take advantage of when it happens. But the Highland Clearances and the Highland Potato Famine were happening at roughly the same time.

    Not seeing anything about food being prevented from being delivered to the Scottish, or things like that.

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      9 hours ago

      And? I’m not saying Scotland had it just as bad as Ireland. They didn’t. But Scotland did have unwilling collaborators and victims.

      Before we go any further, what point is it that you’re trying to make, actually? Is it your contention that people should hate Scotland now, in this day and age, because of past colonialism?

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        8 hours ago

        And? I’m not saying Scotland had it just as bad as Ireland. They didn’t. But Scotland did have unwilling collaborators and victims.

        Scotland is a willing partner in crime. It is not a victim.

        Before we go any further, what point is it that you’re trying to make, actually? Is it your contention that people should hate Scotland now, in this day and age, because of past colonialism?

        Why are you talking of things as “past colonialism” as if the glorified USian provinces aren’t engaging in colonialism today?

        My point is that Scotland and Wales are not some victims of England. Relevant polities are very much willing to engage in all the same atrocities.