Further, it is absolutely not my place as a statesian communist to tell China how to educate on Marxism. If anything, I try to learn from them and how they teach Marxism so I can more effectively study and help others with theory.
You say that as if the white american leftists do not pride themselves on having read all of the theory, yet still support our capitalistic system even having read all of the theory
The american leftists that continue to allow America to keep being capitalist by not acting and instead just reading the theory without doing much other than feeling better about themselves because they read a book. That is most of the American ‘Communists/Leftists’ I have interacted with
I agree with you. But i aslo feel like when people complain about the state of organizing in the US, it doesn’t get acknowledged how thouroughly the left in the US was routed. Every org was infiltrated and compromised. Its leaders and members were assassinated and imprisoned. I’m not argueing against organizing of course, and there are good orgs today like the two you mentioned. I just think it should be acknowledged why we’re in the state we’re in in the US. It’s not because people read some books, and then decided to just allow capitalism to continue. An entire generation of socialists were basically eradicated here
It sounds like you’re just justifying not reading theory and projecting onto people that have. I wish the US only continued to exist because the people who’ve read theory were allowing it to. That would be a really easy fix
“Theory is a leftist conspiracy!” - @basiclemmon98@lemmy.dbzer0.com probably
Those damn commies and all the books we read, lol
Sorry to challenge your little conspiracy theory based on 200 years of theory and praxis. My sources:
Yep pretty much lol
You should send those books to china and see if they’ll read them.
I support that.
They do, Marxism is a subject you can major in in college.
Further, it is absolutely not my place as a statesian communist to tell China how to educate on Marxism. If anything, I try to learn from them and how they teach Marxism so I can more effectively study and help others with theory.
Edit: and you admit you, yourself haven’t read them!!! Pure Western “leftist” clown shit
You say that as if the white american leftists do not pride themselves on having read all of the theory, yet still support our capitalistic system even having read all of the theory
That’s why you’re here making a fool of yourself, right? Because we all support capitalism and you’re a communist?
They’re the one true leftist
What are you talking about? How are communists supporting the “capitalistic” system?
The american leftists that continue to allow America to keep being capitalist by not acting and instead just reading the theory without doing much other than feeling better about themselves because they read a book. That is most of the American ‘Communists/Leftists’ I have interacted with
This is absolutely a problem. Marxist-Leninists call these people “Western Marxists,” and have written extensively about it. 2 good sources are Western Marxism Loves Purity and Martyrdom, But Not Real Revolution by Jones Manoel, and Western Marxism: How it was Born, How it Died, and How it can be Reborn by Domenico Losurdo.
There are good orgs doing work in the west. In the US Empire, some good examples are the Party for Socialism and Liberation and Freedom Road Socialist Organization. In my aforementioned Read Theory, Darn it! introductory ML reading list I also stress the importance of getting organized.
I agree with you. But i aslo feel like when people complain about the state of organizing in the US, it doesn’t get acknowledged how thouroughly the left in the US was routed. Every org was infiltrated and compromised. Its leaders and members were assassinated and imprisoned. I’m not argueing against organizing of course, and there are good orgs today like the two you mentioned. I just think it should be acknowledged why we’re in the state we’re in in the US. It’s not because people read some books, and then decided to just allow capitalism to continue. An entire generation of socialists were basically eradicated here
It sounds like you’re just justifying not reading theory and projecting onto people that have. I wish the US only continued to exist because the people who’ve read theory were allowing it to. That would be a really easy fix