• Lfrith@lemmy.ca
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    2 days ago

    Rather than degoogling telling them you will go to Apple and opt for apple services is likely the more powerful response, since that is what the regular person is more likely to do. If degoogled is used they’ll likely dismiss it assuming it is just one of those niche nerds. But an exodus to Apple is a threat that is more realistic.

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      2 days ago

      But that makes no sense - they’ll go to someone who is even more restrictive in side loading?

      Google won’t reverse this because there’s no alternative for the relatively few people this will affect. They already don’t use Google things, and Apple don’t accomodate them. They’ve got them by the balls and they know it, which is why it’s all just empty threats even from people in here.

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        The ones that don’t sideload obviously won’t care. But the ones that do are going to have little incentive to stick around if that was the main selling point for them, and the devs for non Google play apps leave because they don’t want to hand over info to Google.

        At that point why not go to Apple if Android no longer delivers the type of sideloading experience they desire? Apple is more polished, has longer support, battery life, and better peripherals.

        And those types likely will push family to move to Apple too if they are jumping ship, since they might be the ones overseeing tech support for the family anyways.

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          17 hours ago

          The type of people crying over this are not moving to iPhones lol. You know it, I know it, everyone knows it. Google know it, which is why they know they can do this with no issue.

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            14 hours ago

            The people crying over this are the ones who care about sideloading. So if that aspect is gone then why stick with Android? It’s definitely not for Google play apps for me.

            If you want to defend how Google is bigger and won’t be affected you are better off pointing out that sideloading population isn’t that big, and that most users don’t use it so would be fine with iPhone or Android.

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              14 hours ago

              Side loading isn’t going away, just “anonymous” side loading. I suspect it will end up being a non-issue anyway, as simply registering as a developer through their portal so you can have your app be side loaded isn’t a big deal unless your app is doing something nefarious.

              I’m not “defending” anything, let alone Google. All I’m doing is being realistic. The tiny minority of people this will affect have no alternative, and this change is likely to make very little actual change to those people anyway.

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                13 hours ago

                Small minority of people who care about this and end up affected will just leave for something else if custom ROMs stops being an option and dev scene dies out.

                Not every Dev on F-Droid wants to hand over their info to Google.

                You can argue that Google doesn’t care because they are a minority and custom ROM users provide no benefit to them, which is true. But to act like people are stuck with Google if the feature they care about affects apps that interest them are stuck with Google isn’t true either. They are already doing stuff that is unusual from regular users.

                Don’t worry mainstream won’t be affected. I’m talking about the weird people sideloading, degoogling, and more likely to be running custom ROMs.