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      Given it’s the government it’s most likely AWS or Azure. That really isn’t inherently bad, it’s more the attitude of “move fast and break things” doesn’t necessarily work for secure systems with sensitive data.

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        So again, it’s all just bullshit hopes and dreams by the anti-doge people. No data has been exposed or hacked, no evidence of it actually being on anything insecure.

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          In cyber security you may never know if a bad actor got access to your systems/data. The issue with not following good security practices is that you increase the risk of this happening.

          Its like saying we should stop mandating vaccines cause the diseases aren’t around anymore. When you let down your defenses you end up with outbreaks that shouldn’t have happened and are harder to control.

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            In cyber security you may never know if a bad actor got access to your systems/data. The issue with not following good security practices is that you increase the risk of this happening.

            If they’re using Azure or AWS then they have a level of built in good security practices. These people aren’t morons, they know what they’re doing. In fact, using AWS or Azure you have to fuck things up to make it insecure, because by default they’re all pretty locked down.

            Its like saying we should stop mandating vaccines cause the diseases aren’t around anymore.

            I’m 100% a pro-vaccine person, but vaccines should not be mandatory. “My body, my choice” - isn’t that the saying? Or is that only for women wanting an abortion? If someone doesn’t want to get a vaccine then they can suffer the potential consequences while those who are vaccinated don’t (but they have to deal with the potential side effects of the vaccine).

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              While AWS/Azure do make the initial configs rather fool proof, that falls apart the moment you start configuring them for actual use. It’s also especially easy to mess things up when handling PII, at the SSA level it’s probably something that DOGE staff don’t have experience with.

              As for vaccines. Largely through that out there cause it seemed like obvious bait for you, but I don’t think a single slogan “my choice my body” really encapsulates the arguments around abortion

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                The people working at doge are mostly what people would consider geniuses in their field. Configuring azure databases to be secure is a piece of cake. Like I said, it’s harder to make them insecure than it is to make them secure. I know, I work with them every day. How does handling PII make it easier to mess things up exactly?

                Good to know you were just trying to bait and “troll”, not really good faith arguing is it? You wouldn’t have been trying to find something to disagree with just because you can’t argue against my actual point I made, were you?

                “My body my choice” perfectly encapsulates the argument for abortion because it literally is pro-abortion people’s main argument - and yes, I am 100% pro-abortion.

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                  I think the line “how does handling PII make it easier to mess things up” just about sums things up for me.

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                    If the servers are secure and the PII is properly encrypted in the original db then how does it make it any easier to mess up? Would love to hear your expert opinion on this.