I don’t know how exactly they are trained to behave, I would assume the goal of the creators is to have an AI that is easy to work with so more people use it. That makes them agreeing and write like humans maybe? And for sure they are build to seem smarter and more capable than they are, this is an issue we have to overcome. I suppose its difficult to train an AI to say “I don’t know” because its just a mushy mess of matrices and vectors and data is not “stored” in their system but generated to represent something that seems cmas close as spossible to the truth?

Tbh i don’t quite get it.

I expect to be downvoted like hell here for saying this, but I think discourse is important. Also, its not meant as an attack on op, I want to get my viewpoint out here for others to respond and spark a discission I hope

You went to chat with one of the lowest their models they offer. It detected an typo and reported it by saying “I made a typo”. You then tried to get it to admit it does not have fingers which it does by saying “what ever the equivalent of a typo is”. So first we don’t habe the language to say an AI generated an false word or token (other than this, which is pretty clunky), second what did you expect from an randomized predicting machine that drew its statistical data from language?

And why do you use it in the first place if you think its dumb?

Maybe this community is just meant as a place to rent and let out emotions or preach to the choir, then I am sorry to slide in here. But if we want to change how AI is used and works we have to find real issus and datapoints that we can use to discuss AI usage. There are enough talking points other than the language it uses, like education, energy, environment, noise, capitalism, human nature and a ton more

I just miss good discussions about political things like this. I would love if we could have a culture on Lemmy again where we upvote good discussions if we agree or disagree. Trolls and dumb arguments or insults can be downvoted. But we will not develop as a society if we just downvote what we don’t like to hear, its not black and white I think. Idk

Haha i get that. I feel like proxmox backup server is really great together with proxmox though. And idk but I feel like there is not too much to do wrong? Correct me if you think differently, but we use a mirrored hdd zfs pool on pbs and pve, so we have 4 copies plus snapshots ob the backup server. So harddrive failure is not really a problem. And deleting or corrupting files or databases manually on accident can happen, but they can be revived sometimes or restored from last nights backup And yes, the backup server could die, but the drives should be fine still. And yes, it can burn down but then you have a mirrored drive on the home lab. I think its rather difficult to delete stuff on the bps on accident. I would just not delete anything manually. If its too full, either increase the pruning job for old snapshots or just put in a mother pair of drives.

Maybe I am cheap but its also fun I think. Also I feel like my data is actually mine now?

To throw in yet another opinion that does not help you right now: My friend has a backup server at his place and I have our home lab at my place.

Just a rough calculation: 2 8tb drives for a mirror is 150€ each (during a normal market, and when we bought it), so 300 combined. That is 60€per year if we assume they die quickly after 5years.

With a very light old desktop pc that is power efficient we can reach 25w

That is: 25w/1000 (for kW) * 24h * 365d * 0.35€/kW = 78€ per year of energy.

That is combined 138€/year.

The hetzner storage box is 24€/Month @ 10tb

So that is 288€/year.

So I would argue that its even cheaper to pay a friend to put a small old pc at their place and paying them 40ct /kwh is still cheaper than the clouds? Assuming you can find hdds at a reasonable price. But I could find cheap used offers with a runtime of 3y for 100€.

If you only need 1tb, its not worth it to run your own storage, as the power stays roughly the same:

Hetzner: 3,8€/1tb * 12m = 46.6€ So allone the power of running the backup server is not worth it financially.

For the 5tb plan: 12€*12m=144€ so that is the break even point I assume, as drives don’t scale too mich with price?

I struggle go see beyond my unconsciousness pishing back and hindering me to reflect in a neutral way. I feel like I am stuck with my own image of myself without a possibility to see the actual me if that makes sense, so I feel like I’m not capable to be and feel myself? Like, in my mind the way people perceive me and respect and enjoy me is only a person I try to be while hiding my actual intentions. I am open with my thoughts and I am rarely hesitant to be honest but I still feel that contrast