Sure the USSR was a paradise for everyone. Nothing bad happened and nobody was ever hurt.

bye

But that’s just not true. People were wrongly imprisoned because of the state’s personal goals, the same as the Tsarist system the only better part was the lack of funds and policing power Tsarist Russia had to support their desire to imprison and control the population. People were still imprisoned base on their sexuality, the religious identity and their progressive movements. That’s not progressive.

Nobody is arguing pro western motives here, I don’t know why you want to stick to that soo fucking hard. It literally damages every argument you make. Learn to criticize the USSR on it’s own actions and stop bringing up the west in every single argument you make it literally weakens it every time. You think across the ENTIRE WEST every prison was wayyy worse than in the USSR? Because that’s just not true, the idea of a gulag is definitely made overly cartoonish but being sent to a Siberian labor camp and people dying in these labor camps is absolutely real dude. They did not try to make a more humane system, maybe some people did but some people tried to make more humane prison systems in the west too. Because again, for the like 5th fucking time it is not a this or that argument, a lot of this is cultural global shifts in human rights. Everyone across the world was realizing the need for change. You’re making an ass out of yourself trying to push this east vs west thing sooo fucking hard.

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cya

I never said a gulag, I laughed at how silly it is to propose the concept of a progressive prison.

That is literally what is being argued. A constant push to express one is more progressive and the other isn’t. If you read my initial comment I make it very clear a lot of it is a global shift and some of that shift did not stick in certain places because of certain actions the government engaged in, suppressing progressive movements being a major one.

Can you read?

Didn’t you also say cya? Go away lol

cya

“Fucking bloodthirsty racist shitlibs!!”

-continues to support your brand of colonialism and oppression I guess.

I said it first, cya!

The entire thread arguing that the USSR was progressive and the west was not? Sorry can you read?

I am being replied to, he is leaping to everyone of my replies.

Y’all are so fake and disingenuous.

And progressive for it’s time doesn’t mean the only progressive or the only one doing any progress. Please adjust the lens to the center for more accurate viewing.

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“he said a bad word, everything he said was wrong!”

Whatever gang, cya

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Trifonov

Okay he’s lying I guess.

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He literally just argued work camps were more progressive than western prison practices. Which were also work camps in many places, and also not work camps in other places. I am not being insulting, I am being insulted. And now dogpiled in an attempt to overwhelm. I have nothing to prove, history stands. Many people here will realize how fucking silly it is to argue the USSR was a progressive place.

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