• Skyrmir@lemmy.world
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      Don’t look back, but this is also exactly what they want to happen. Self segregation so they can solidify their regime.

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        Whatever “”“regime”“” they can scrape together in the economic/ecological hellholes they call “states” won’t be enough. The coming AI tech crash, along with the next Housing bubble collapse (that is happening RIGHT NOW in the South, and spreading North!!!) will wipe out whatever regime they can build, because their zones of antiregulation and social destruction will be hit hardest. That said, I pity the unfortunate sods who want to leave but can’t yet; their window is closing pretty quickly, all things considered.

        So yeah, run as fast as you can, as far as you can, and DO NOT LOOK BACK.

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      I am registered as independent, and vote as progressive as I can.

      Also WTF, until 2020, D held an edge in registration. It’s all those fucking conservative northerners who came down here during COVID. Two on my block, plus my boss are in this group. I’ve never been a “fuck off back to where you came from” person, but really, fuck off back to where you came from. May the alligators and hurricanes drive you back up north.

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        Anecdotally, so many people moved from New York to Florida during Covid. The Internet tells me over 100,000. Whenever people I knew would tell me my first question was a bewildered… but why?

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          It’s not a new thing exactly, I went to school with kids from NY and Michigan and NJ. What’s new is the ideological idiocy. I’m sure you are glad to be rid of them, but they weren’t doing as much damage up north. It’s like gerrymandering the nation.

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            Some of it was understandable. A Cuban-American wanted to live closer to family, for example. Others just wanted “better weather,” to which I say, there are better places to live in the summer than a swamp controlled by insane people.

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              I am from here, grew up without air conditioning, in fact even the school didn’t have it until 7th grade. The weather suits me fine, and there’s plenty good about it locally.

              Honestly I can pinpoint the hour it went wrong, when Al Gore conceded, though he won. Barely. I always wish I’d landed in the other timeline.

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    For context, I’m fucking old.

    I was registered independent for literally my entire life until the trump years began. Then I registered D, only to then witness what is now commonly touted - D fights at least as hard against progressive Democrats as they do against conservative Republicans, sometimes harder. (Witness Mamdani/Cuomo, Pelosi knifing AOC in the back to get her version of “youth” into power - a 74 year old terminally ill boomer - Nancy is silent generation afterall, etc etc, etc.)

    I considered changing back to independent after watching Kamala campaign real hard for Republican votes, and especially after David Hogg’s exit, because it’s pretty clear to me that they haven’t learned a fucking thing, and since I know they are all smart people, part of me is starting to seriously consider the “they are fighting exactly as hard as they want to” angle.

    But I’m going to wait until I see who they put into the presidential primary, and until I see how that primary is conducted.

    Having said all that, Kamala was my last vote for a conservative Democrat. I need to see progressive voices being platformed and progressive policies being seriously considered, or else I’ll be switching back to Independent after this next one. (Assuming we keep getting elections, of course.)

    We’ve made it all the way to modern-day Hitler with D returning to the well of “but Republicans are evil, you have to vote for us” over and over and over. They can’t ratchet up the fear tactics any further. We’ve hit the ceiling. They pulled the “vote for us or Hitler will win” card, then Hitler won. They can’t dangle something worse than that in front of us next time. So they will have to compete on something better than the other party being the party of Hitler.

    If conservative or “centrist” Democrats who aren’t Hitler continues to be all they know how to sell, I’m done buying. And I wish I’d learned this lesson decades ago.

    That’s a very lengthy way to say “I’m not fucking surprised.” But also, I think there’s a decent chunk of likely D voters who have always been registered I, and I also think it’s pretty clear after the last election that a good chunk of D is sending a vote of no confidence to the party.

    I’d love to see Florida flip blue, but this is the state that put DeSantis in power. I’m not sure florida becoming more red is surprising nor any kind of bellwether.

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      How DARE you! We need to VOTE BLUE NO MATTER WHO (UNLESS the DNC DOESNT like the Blue THEN we can Vote Independent!)!

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      Republican Fascists are the Neoliberals “esteemed opposition.”

      The few leftists with power are spoiler candidates, because both parties only promote candidates on the basis of their ability to get bribe checks, and are the Neoliberals enemies.

      If you want to see the Democrat party treat a President as a threat to the nation that must be resisted at every turn, just elect President AOC. They’re in a power sharing agreement with the Republicans.

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      I so wish I could register with a half decent 3rd party here in California, but they’re all complete jokes. California Independents nominated Trump in 2016, ffs. I can’t trust any of these idiotic political parties to not nominate HitlerBot 2000, some current or former celebrity, or a meme candidate.

      3rd parties lack a nuanced political platform that differs from their contemporaries, and they also lack qualified and charismatic candidates to bring them out of obscurity.

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    In my (red) State a lot of Dems register R to affect the primaries - hope to keep the most extreme R’s out. Results are…mixed.

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    Registering republican is actually on my list. Any negatives there? I’ll be voting d until the democrats storm the capital.

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      Any negatives there

      depending on where you are, your party affiliation (or lack of) could determine what primaries you can participate in.

      the junk mail, phone calls, and other solicitations and communications. yeah, you get it either way, but what you get and who’s targeting you will be totally different.

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        Yeah in Florida you can only vote for your party’s primary, I thought that was everywhere until I moved to Tennessee. Here you can pick the primary ballot when you arrive and vote only within that party ballot, thought it was weird

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            Well the primaries are essentially company votes for sponsorship, in which they don’t matter but for that company. So I get the argument that people outside of the party shouldn’t be able to vote in it, but I also wish parties weren’t a thing. The votes for actual positions are on everyones ballots. So you can vote against your party or for anyone, you just can’t influence what the party is sponsoring for that position beforehand because you aren’t registered within that “company.”

            It’s all a mess, especially that it’s different everywhere

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    As all the college educated and non whites flee the state it will become more religious extremist and regressive