• Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub
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      Boot-person, here.

      You know who’s secretly laughing inside? Any boot fan looking at your fake ass Doc Martens or Timberlands.

      Both sold out to VC money decades ago.

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          Get some William Lennon boots. Super durable and made in UK and cheaper than most big brand boots.

          Probably have to send them back to the UK to be resoled because they use old school wire welts, but it’ll be years until you need to do that.

          6 month lead time though.

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            They look very nice but around $500 CAD is definitely more than I’m looking to spend right now. Maybe in the future though, they do look like something I’d like.

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          The best mid-high range brand boot is RedWing.

          They’re not “the best” literally ever, but they’re close and they have stores everywhere and they’re serious about boots. Them and Thorogood’s trade blows back and forth as competitors. Can’t go wrong with either, and get wool socks. You’ll thank me for it.

          Do not go to Boot Barn…

          who is “The Best?”

          Nick’s, no contest.

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          Red Wing is expensive but I’ve put thousands of miles on mine. The tarsal guard saved my foot when someone (fuck you Brent) set a 6000lb pallet down on it while I was trying to undo his stupid fucking knot that he tied in the ratchet strap for God knows what reason. I have another pair that’s just safety toe and they are my favorite pair of shoes.

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            I’ve heard nothing but great things about Red Wing and apparently there’s a store nearby, but they are out of my price range. I’ve considered saving up for a pair but wasn’t sure it would be worth it. Maybe I’ll finally check them out, try a few on, see what the hype is all about. I know they’re supposed to last a very long time. Everything you’ve said I’ve heard, I just don’t know if I can stomach spending that much on footwear.

            Also, I used to work with a Brent who nearly crushed my foot under a pallet not much lighter than what you said so I feel that for sure. Thankfully he missed though.

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            Didn’t Red Wing move most of their boot manufacturing to China? They’ve got one or two lines still made in Red Wing MN but iirc it’s mostly China now.

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              Well that’s disappointing to hear. I have had mine for like a decade so it’d make sense that I’m out of the loop

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              They have several product lines and many are still made in the states, but from what I’ve seen in-store, their Chinese footwear might be made there but they’re as tight on designs with them as the US-made boots, although many of the cheaper boots have molded soles instead of welts, so it isn’t exactly 1-1 comparisons.

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                I was there last month looking for some safety shoes to replace my redwing boots as I’ve changed roles in my company and don’t need 8" boots anymore. They didn’t have any shoes in stock because they were partnering with New Balance for their fall lineup of safety shoes. I couldn’t wait, so I picked up an ultra light 6" boot that I’m pretty happy with. Still fucking expensive though.

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      Especially given that their product doesn’t last all that long, most can’t even replace the sole because they glue instead of stitch or welt.

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        The reason that the rich were so rich, Vimes reasoned, was because they managed to spend less money. Take boots, for example. … A really good pair of leather boots cost fifty dollars. But an affordable pair of boots, which were sort of OK for a season or two and then leaked like hell when the cardboard gave out, cost about ten dollars. … But the thing was that good boots lasted for years and years. A man who could afford fifty dollars had a pair of boots that’d still be keeping his feet dry in ten years’ time, while a poor man who could only afford cheap boots would have spent a hundred dollars on boots in the same time and would still have wet feet.

        This was the Captain Samuel Vimes ‘Boots’ theory of socio-economic unfairness.

        -Terry Pratchett “Men at Arms”

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          There’s some truth here but it’s definitely not THE reason the rich are rich, not even close.

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            Its just a microcosm of how being poor is really expensive, while there are tons of ways to save money while wealthy. That doesn’t end up being the cause of wealth inequality but it does give a certain inertia to those class positions.

            Edit: because I misremembered the quote and vimes does present it that way.

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        Is “replacing the sole” still a thing we can do with some boots? I keep replacing my boots because the sole is worn down, but the rest of the boot is still good, and I’d love to have the option of just replacing the sole. Are there companies that make boots where this is possible? Or do I need to find some local shoemaker?

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          Jim Green is another brand that makes relatively affordable, easily resoleable boots. Some of their styles have eyelet panels which are designed to be replaceable as well. I quite like mine.

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          If you’re not spending more than 200 for your boots, probably not. The lowest price boot I know that is Goodyear welt (replaceable sole) is Thursday Boot Company. The big names are Redwing and Wolverine, and even some Wolverine aren’t meant to replace the sole.

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          Absolutely. As long as the boots are made properly and the sole isn’t just glued on. I think a lot of Danner and Redwing boots are resolable.

          I’ve got a pair of Danner’s that I really like.

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            About half. If it’s glued like a sneaker it can’t be done, but a (real) stitch or welt can be done.

            Some brands glue and stitch, so it looks doable but isn’t (most timberlands)

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          If you need to worry about electrical insulation just get new boots, if not shoe glue will give life for a a bit longer.

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    Timberland boots don’t retire. They constantly slack off at work and quit in a rage when confronted about it.

    …also I’m pretty sure they were smoking crack while driving the service van

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    This ad is going to last about as well as their products.

    I just had to shoe cement the sole back on my Timberland Pro boots that I’ve only worn a handful of times over the last two years. Cheap crap.

    I was kicking old and rotted wooden spindles off of a deck we were replacing with the steel toe. It knocked the sole of 2/3 of the boot in the process. The leather has some good marks where you can see the hits were generated. I know it wasn’t the best way, but it was like punching through a wet paper bag with how rotted they were. Ugh.

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      Have theu changed hands ? I bought a pair in 1994 and still wear them, I only wear them a couple times a year… but still

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      I’ve had the same pair of timberland pro boots for 2 years, i walk about 5 miles a week in them through train ballast, they’re still mostly like new.