They’re trying to pivot to world domination.
Total enslavement of humanity, automated by their tech companies.
I’m not kidding. -_-
They also want us all to work in low Earth orbit. Check out Blue Horizons’ website.
Jetsons!
By that point the earth will be so polluted they will make profits by selling us clean air/02 in canisters, clean water, food an housing. Those of us that can’t afford it will just die.
So poor people will become disposable?
Become?
Solution: pay the politicians to declare a costly war, draft the poors, throw them into the meat grinder, they die off, AI owners profit by having everything be cheaper because all the poors died off.
Honestly there’s no need because world population growth is declining anyways, so in a generation or two, even with AI, they’re going to have the opposite problem.
world population growth is declining anyways, so in a generation or two,
Yeah, but this way is faster. Why wait when there is quarterly profit reports due to the shareholders?
What shareholders? Oh, right.
Capitalism is a rabid dog, that only managed to serve the middle class well in the past because it was kept muzzled and on a tight leash.
Successive, and successful attempts to ‘unleash the beast’ have left us bit, and apologies for mixing metaphors here, but there is probably no way left, to get the genie back into the bottle:
Undoing 50+ years of damage would take time, especially when faced with resistance from those that stand to benefit most from the current broken system (think the Top 1% of the 1%), and that is time that we simply do not seem to have.
Dude I’m afraid this is just going to lead to the end of the world.
For what it’s worth; the world will survive and adapt. Whether that means the extinction of humanity, is a whole separate matter altogether.
Our species entire existence is a mere blip compared to dinosaurs for an example.
I know, but we did some cool things. Our advances in Math and Physics to unlock the secrets of the universe. Our engineering prowess. The Linux Kernel is a standing achievement of humanity’s ability to contribute to something greater than themselves for no real financial gain. Plus our music and our humour and our entertainment have been just fantastic.
It’d be cool if we could at least have some permanent record of that if we don’t make it, so that future aliens could know that despite us being continual fuckwits, we did do some pretty amazing things.
Yeah we were a blip. But I don’t want that blip to mean nothing.
A few of us did some pretty amazing things and the rest of us are fuckwits
Well, we have the golden records on the Voyager probes, a similar one on New horizons, and our geo-stationary sats will pretty much last until the end of our solar system. So there will be some evidence of us for at least a few hundred million years or so.
Well, actually, our descendants will survive and adapt to the new Middle Ages when civilization collapses along with AI.
Corporate welfare of course
Falling rate of profit by karl marx predicted this. Self destructive nature of capitalism
A socialist revolution is the only solution and it will come.
A socialist revolution is the only solution and it will come.
Not the only. The rich still can lead us to fascism. The only problem is that fascism has its own internal contradictions and history won’t stop there.
But the near-global technofascist dictatorship were on the threshold of is going to be vastly different than anything we’ve seen before. How do you resist a technological panopticon?
By smoking pot and breeding like rockstars
you’d think so, but what is being actually done to achieve this? As far as i have seen, people dont seem to have interest even in their own well being if it requires any attention span and they lap up any and all propaganda to the extent you are considered kind of crazy if you think corporations might not have your interests at their heart.
If the revolution is coming, it wont have any supporters because vast majority will just side with the corporations or plain not care. Not saying this to deter anyone from doing something but to point that winning back peoples minds is the first step that needs to be taken if anything is to be done at all.
These “people” in charge of corporations genuinely forgot that the workers they underpay are the consumers who they on rely to give them money.
It’s almost like someone a 130ish years ago predicted that capitalism would be like this. I wonder who that is?
Karlos Marxcia.
Not just that, even as a company I would be seriously anxious when I know my business can be fully run by AI. That means that others can replicate your business very easily, which generates lots of competition, resulting in a race to the bottom. Which might even be good for consumers somehow.
Try thinking about that again but through the lens of a capitalist.
HURRRR DURRRRRRRR MONEY NUMBERS UP BEST WEORLD!
ouch that hurt.
And as a second point, we all know that when companies or people depend on AI the price to use that AI will go up to the point where it is almost as expensive as having actual people doing the job. All these billions poured in AI need to be earned back, so now your business will fail unless you basically pay them whatever they ask.
It will get to the point where they will simply take your business away or make you dependent through carrots and sticks or whatever.
The executives sell the corporate plane piece by piece while still in the air, then jump out in a golden parachute while the remains of the company nose dive to a fiery end.
This; look at how short-term they’re already thinking.
They will see the writing on the wall long before they actually have any genuine fear for business. And they’ll take the money and run, just like they already do now.
Kill off all of the poors they no longer need and live in a utopia being served by robots.
Unironically the closest answer to reality except they’ll just let us die
Yeah, I wasn’t joking. That’s our future if we don’t get our shit together and bring them down first.
Given cuts to medicaid and vaccine approvals being rolled back, one had best hurry.
We have time until 2027, then everything will be sad. Although surprises await us already in 2026. :3
Dont you need poors for there to be rich? Even if they didnt need us to work cause some amazing AI, they need to flex it to real people right? Or will they stroke their ego with ai VTubers?
Well, people are drunk with power and have really gone crazy a long time ago. In short, in the rich areas they will be replaced by robots, and in the poor areas people will work as slaves for food.
The time machine by hg Wells. The rich force the poor underground into manual labor until both evolve and the poor start eating the rich
The Penultimate Truth is a really awesome book about pretty much this, except they stuck the poors underground in Tanks.
tanks?
varoom vroom! or gurgle gurlge?They are sort of like Vaults in Fallout, it’s seriously one of my favorite books. Phillip K Dick
So gurgle gurgle then
Oh, you have no idea. If you don’t have a job (or 5), then you’re going to prison for being a vagrant. Or they do some dystopian shit where you are in the equivalent work labor camp, where you are provided basic life necessities in exchange for paying off your debt by working based on your skills. No skills? Manual labor in farms or construction.
People really have no idea what we’re complacently walking into. If you’re not rich, and I mean a few million american dollarooos or trump bucks… say next 10 years…? You’re fucked.
You’re damn right, in that case it’s better to gather a group of people and go build villages far away from civilization and live in them so that these bastards with their drones don’t get us.
Well, if people remain in civilization, some will be led to the slaughter, and others will be forced to take the mark like cattle, and they will be like sheep awaiting slaughter.
sounds like a lot more work than setting up drones full of petrochemical cleaning agents that spark.
You pay me $10 to punch you in the face. I pay you $10 to kick me in the balls. We just increased our country’s GDP by $20.
I’d pay $5 to watch that. Hey, I think we have something going here.
The idea is just to get there first. If you make it one quarter before your competition then you get a a really good quarter.
Long terms plans don’t matter to CEOs. Long term stability is not rewarded by capitalism.
Also if they believe the outcome is inevitable in the near future it’s a certain kind of sensible to race to be first. It’s a variant on the prisoners dilemma where they can see each other racing to rat the others out in the hope that the first will get a discount on sentence length.
Answer. They don’t fucking have a plan. At all.
And they don’t care. They care about profits now, not profits 5 years from now. That is a problem for future CEOs to solve.
Yep, need line to go up this quarter and the few following, no further planning needed.
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I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Businesses operate on three timescales. Monthly, quarterly and annually. Anything beyond that they’re not even thinking about.
When a company talks about long term strategy you can ignore everything they say after. It means nothing.
So AI can make them more money in the short term. They don’t understand the problem even if it’s right in front of them.
I feel this is always true for public companies, while there are some exceptions in private ones.
Part of it is that corporations have decentralized and siloed ethical responsibility. It’s a lot of greased cogs.
Yeah, I usually say “large organisations”. So it’s a good point.
From what I’ve noticed, with AI companies, it’s usually not “annual” but “annualized”, which is just an estimate. And it doesn’t seem like there are any rules to calculating that estimate, you can just grab the best 30-day period of operation, multiply it by 12 and claim millions in annualized revenue. And then they usually just sell to someone based on this estimation, since it’s almost never profitable to build something on top of existing infrastructure of the main players in this market and maintaining your own is just not feasible.
Anything beyond that they’re not even thinking about.
Every place I’ve had a white-collar office job, there’s been a 5-year plan. But the plan is typically a flippant and unrealistic goal, I suppose the purpose of which is to temporarily boost morale and to be a cult-like litmus test to see which employees can ignore reality.
Two of the more egregious examples: I worked in what was considered a medium sized company (maybe 30ish employees at the time). Management decided their 5-year goal was that we were going to grow large enough to own/build a skyscraper downtown. Another was at a relatively unknown regional retain chain that couldn’t even compete with Walmart whose 5 year goal was to become a household name around the world.
A lot of businesses operate at a 5-10 year time scale or more. Take all these AI datacenters being built. That takes a long time. You need to obtain planning permission from the local government. You need to buy the land, get all the utilities you’ll need to the site (they use a lot of water and electricity). You need to build the actual buildings. You need to put in an order for the computer hardware so it’s available when the building is done. You need to actually build the buildings.
Some of these can be done in parallel, but a lot can’t. You can’t lay out the electrical or cooling paths until the building is built. You can’t start installing racks until the electrical and cooling systems are in place. You can’t start installing servers until the racks are all ready. You can’t start connecting the servers and everything until all the electrical, cooling and networking setup is done. And, at every step there are going to be setbacks, especially when you’re building something new and innovative, and not just plopping down something you’ve built 100x before.
You are so correct. They will, in very short time now be more or less doing exactly what I suggested!