• ceenote@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    I always said “You can tell when Charlie Kirk is arguing in bad faith by when his lips are moving and sounds are coming out.”

    And it was literally the last thing he ever did.

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          6 hours ago

          I feel bad for his kids, actually.

          They’ll likely be raised to think their father was a martyr, so the poor things (like 1 and 3 years) will probably grow up in the alt-right-o-sphere where their dad was a martyr to the cause.

          That’s very sad. They’ll likely won’t have had a chance.

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            5 hours ago

            I do too… But I wouldn’t say they don’t stand a chance

            Their dad got shot while encouraging gun violence. That might instill some strong opinions in them

            The kind of strong opinions that will likely be buried and come out later in therapy

            But it could go either way

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              Depends. I expect his wife is just as alt-right-addled as he was, which might mean she’ll raise them to be little Nazis. I guess they might break out of that, and I hope so, but being raised alt-right with a prominent martyr to the cause as your father could seriously fuck you up. Don’t forget they’re very rich, so they’re insulated from the real world.

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                I mean you might be right, but I imagine the martyr thing could go either way

                Just putting myself in their shoes, it probably won’t feel nice having their dad constantly praised for doing what they saw him die doing

                Plus, Charlie Kirk was more hated than loved. There’s no putting them so deep in a bubble that they aren’t confronted with that fact

                Kids tend to either follow or reject their parents beliefs… I’m not sure what this kind of trauma does to that, but I’ll bet it’ll make it more extreme

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                  2 hours ago

                  For their sake, I hope you’re right.

                  e: and, putting myself in their shoes as a child whose father was both prominent and absent (though not dead), I idolised him well into my 30s. Raising a teen boy finally disabused me of his sainthood. He’s still the most remarkable man I’ve ever met, but he’s also fallible.
                  If he’d been dead, I may never have been forced to accept he’s human.

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          2 days ago

          I do unironically feel bad for his kids, even if they may grow up better without him they still watched their dad get ganked in public. Note they were with him at the time.

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            I did not know that… That sucks

            And I wasn’t being ironic either. I hope his ill gotten gains are enough for his kids to be ok… The damage he did collecting it will never equal what he squirreled away, but hopefully it at least is enough for his kids to grow up with food and therapists

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              That’s my take as well, right now they need comfort food and a highly respected trauma therapist. Maybe keep them away from crowds for awhile as well, who knows what issues will start to manifest in the coming days/weeks/months/years.

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            2 days ago

            You’re looking to feel sad for someone because a violemce happened, but this wasn’t bad.

            Feel sad for his victims, cry with joy for those who now won’t be, or shut the hell up and enjoy your sippy cup of champaigne.