So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.
Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.
A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.
“Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).
I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.
One of which was done by someone who was kicked off a shooting team for being a dangerously bad shot.
Give me a modern 30 cal hunting rifle, a good scope, ammo, and a benchrest at a 200 yard range and a target. I could teach you to hit a head-sized target in an afternoon, including time to dial in the scope. Hardest skill to learn is calming your nerves when it’s a real human head.
Olympics has a 62 yard rifle competition. Perfect score is theoretically over 450, though practically 450 cap is useful. Gold was 469 points, and 8th 400 points. Averaging under 9 points per shot, for 8th place, which is missing by more than an inch. Expanding to 200 yards, 8th best world athlete would miss on average by over 3 inches. (though only 1/3 of shots are taken in prone position).
I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.
The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.
Then to the same degree, why engrave the evidence to make it easier to track? It still doesnt make sense.
So this line of reasoning is a trap. People do dumb ass shit all the time for emotional reasons, including criminals. In fact, people doing dumb ass shit is so reliable that police investigative procedures are almost designed around it.
Except our shooter here was clearly trained. Possibly a veteran. Or maybe it really was a false flag. They would know what engravings would do on the casings that get left behind.
A lot of people insisting the guy has to be a professional… He absolutely does not, he just has to be very practiced with a rifle. There are probably over a hundred thousand civilians in the US who can hit a target with a Mauser at 200 yards on the first try, it’s literally a feature of some casual gun competitions.
“Clearly trained”. No, not really. Making a headshot at 200 yards with the benefit of a benchrest/tripod/sandbag is not difficult. I’ve hit that distance before with a 357 magnum revolver from benchrest (though the owner had that thing very well dialed in).
I’m seeing plenty of people who obviously know nothing about guns say it’s a hard shot. It’s not.
an average golfer could pretty much do that with a golf club and a golf ball lol 200 yards is not far
Sure, Jan. We used to hit womp rats no bigger than that back home.
Please stop, it hurts. 200 yards is not that hard with a rifle.
We just watched 2 botched attempts at assassination recently. Its clearly not an easy thing to pull off on high profile targets.
One of which was done by someone who was kicked off a shooting team for being a dangerously bad shot.
Give me a modern 30 cal hunting rifle, a good scope, ammo, and a benchrest at a 200 yard range and a target. I could teach you to hit a head-sized target in an afternoon, including time to dial in the scope. Hardest skill to learn is calming your nerves when it’s a real human head.
And I’m telling you none of that good shot shit matters because the average person would not be able to remain calm for that. You need training.
Olympics has a 62 yard rifle competition. Perfect score is theoretically over 450, though practically 450 cap is useful. Gold was 469 points, and 8th 400 points. Averaging under 9 points per shot, for 8th place, which is missing by more than an inch. Expanding to 200 yards, 8th best world athlete would miss on average by over 3 inches. (though only 1/3 of shots are taken in prone position).
Still, this is a good shot.
Olympics uses air guns. Totally different thing.
50m is “real rifle” also optimized for accuracy (just hit target at minimum force) rather than max blood gushing.
I’m not saying this is the case, but it is very possible that if this person purchased the rifle legally, they believe that the purchase will be traceable back to them and that they will almost certainly be caught. So they could have acted with the mindset that they would be throwing away their own life.
easier to track
Sounds like a feature, not a bug. What better way to stage a false flag operation?
There is no tracking danger from engravings, other than establishing a message, and then seeing if future suspect might agree with the message.
In this case, it’s more likely that a fascist loving employee of fascism may want to project more ammunition for fascism.
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The casing doesn’t leave the rifle until you pull the bolt back. Also, 100 yards (300 feet).
e: I’m now hearing 200 yards.
The cartridge casing exists to form a seal against the breach end of the barrel. It doesn’t go anywhere. It just expands slightly from the high pressure gases inside, preventing those gases from escaping out the back, propelling the bullet forward with as much pressure as possible.