Small numbers of troops from European countries — including Denmark, France, Germany, Sweden, Norway and Britain — are being deployed to the Arctic island.
Was a pipe dream to think Carney would stand up to the orange menace.
I thought we were invited. To me, this is a Carney L for Canada until demonstrated otherwise (edit: sorry, I realized I’m talking in sports clichés: an L is a loss, like a W is a win)
We already have a contingent going for a preplanned exercise.
What we are not doing is stationing additional troops there indefinitely. Probably because we need them here for when that orange moron listens to Navarro or Miller again.
As someone who lives in WA state, people have been trying to get income tax implemented here for a while now, but it’s against the state constitution. It has nothing to do with refineries.
People want income tax here because the current sales tax system misproportions tax on only what people spend. This means lower income earners foot more of the tax bill, as they spent most / all of their income just to live. Higher income earners might spend more in general but they also invest that extra income, which eventually will have capital gains tax (but only on the gains) but will never be hit by sales tax until it’s spent.
In 2018 the total output value of the refineries in WA state was 19 billion USD. In 2019 it dropped to 18 billion. I assume price fluctuations in the market.
That makes the WA refineries output about 3.4% of WAs GDP in 2018. It’s not nothing but it also isn’t really that much. Considering the boom in the technology sector it’s probably much less of the GDP these days.
I’m originally from Alberta and I do think Canada should have it’s own refineries but don’t try to press that WAs economy is make it or break it because of these refineries.
Feeling strongly about whether this is an L or a W is insane, on top of the inherent problem of being that black and white simplistic.
First of all, you are basing your knowledge off of random news articles you read. Assuming the PM is competent, they will be making decisions based on intelligence reports that both include everything you know, and a whole crapload of stuff you don’t.
He’s literally playing a game of Diplomacy, against a mad man backed by demons. Give him some space to cook.
No, probably not, because I trust him far less, but that doesn’t mean I would be right for jumping down his throat about this, just that I was biased and upset and being reactionary.
“He’s playing 4D chess” he’s letting a demented senior boss him around and he doesn’t care because he’s too busy selling off our natural resources and trying to bust union strikes. Carney’s a fucking idiot conservative who I have zero trust in.
If he really wanted to bolster us against the rise of fascism he’d give us the election reform we were promised a decade ago. He doesn’t give a shit about that.
I thought we were invited. To me, this is a Carney L for Canada until demonstrated otherwise (edit: sorry, I realized I’m talking in sports clichés: an L is a loss, like a W is a win)
As I understand it:
We already have a contingent going for a preplanned exercise.
What we are not doing is stationing additional troops there indefinitely. Probably because we need them here for when that orange moron listens to Navarro or Miller again.
There are those people - deranged from a lack of coastline and mountains - who would slag Carney no matter what he did here.
Ah, the same people that dont know that Canada lost five refineries(at least!) When Conservative Mulroney signed NAFTA.
And now, Washington state has no income tax because of that, because they gained said refineries.
As someone who lives in WA state, people have been trying to get income tax implemented here for a while now, but it’s against the state constitution. It has nothing to do with refineries.
People want income tax here because the current sales tax system misproportions tax on only what people spend. This means lower income earners foot more of the tax bill, as they spent most / all of their income just to live. Higher income earners might spend more in general but they also invest that extra income, which eventually will have capital gains tax (but only on the gains) but will never be hit by sales tax until it’s spent.
Your state benefits tremendously from the refineries that were located in Vancouver that moved to WA.
We should criminalize the export of oil to your state.
It was hard to get some real numbers of refineries but maybe I’m just not using good search terminology since I’m on my phone.
This paper has an appendix on page 18 that talks real numbers. https://researchcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2021-Refinery-Report-Final.pdf
In 2018 the total output value of the refineries in WA state was 19 billion USD. In 2019 it dropped to 18 billion. I assume price fluctuations in the market.
Per https://usafacts.org/answers/what-is-the-gross-domestic-product-gdp/state/washington-state/ in 2018 the GDP of WA was 562 billion.
That makes the WA refineries output about 3.4% of WAs GDP in 2018. It’s not nothing but it also isn’t really that much. Considering the boom in the technology sector it’s probably much less of the GDP these days.
I’m originally from Alberta and I do think Canada should have it’s own refineries but don’t try to press that WAs economy is make it or break it because of these refineries.
Feeling strongly about whether this is an L or a W is insane, on top of the inherent problem of being that black and white simplistic.
First of all, you are basing your knowledge off of random news articles you read. Assuming the PM is competent, they will be making decisions based on intelligence reports that both include everything you know, and a whole crapload of stuff you don’t.
He’s literally playing a game of Diplomacy, against a mad man backed by demons. Give him some space to cook.
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No. This is a democracy and I reserve the right to criticize leadership, thanks.
Criticism isn’t inherently a bad thing.
Uninformed criticism is.
And I have the right to criticize the over confident and under informed.
Yeah, obviously. When you hit me with this obsequious bullshit, though?
I’m going to tell you to stuff it.
In response to the confident claim that he made the wrong move in a game where the claimant knows less then half the relevant information.
Again, if you feel strongly that his is an L or a W, you’re probably a moron.
Would you give this same grace to Pierre Poilievre were he Prime Minister?
No, probably not, because I trust him far less, but that doesn’t mean I would be right for jumping down his throat about this, just that I was biased and upset and being reactionary.
Then you just don’t want your guy being questioned. You’ll have to forgive me if I don’t agree.
“He’s playing 4D chess” he’s letting a demented senior boss him around and he doesn’t care because he’s too busy selling off our natural resources and trying to bust union strikes. Carney’s a fucking idiot conservative who I have zero trust in.
If he really wanted to bolster us against the rise of fascism he’d give us the election reform we were promised a decade ago. He doesn’t give a shit about that.
What happened to ‘Elbows up,’ eh?