The thing I’m arguing for is banning instances that open a floodgate.
So using your Johnny Regular example, if he goes postal, they can handle Johnny Regular, not our problem, they had no way to know
But if the server admins are like “🎉 Hey everyone! I know that you will all love to see him, please welcome Mass Murderer Johnny Regular! 🎉”, that’s when you ban the entire instance.
The SS was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them into our servers? Islamic State was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them? - No, we shouldn’t.
We’re not legalists, just cause it’s legal and officially supported by a government doesn’t magically make it moral. If an org does terrible things, and that’s well known, then allowing them to join is always bad. It’s implicit support of them.
But if the server admins are like “🎉 Hey everyone! I know that you will all love to see him, please welcome Mass Murderer Johnny Regular! 🎉”, that’s when you ban the entire instance.
Did Bsky do this? Or did they just verify an official account of a government entity?
The SS was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them into our servers? Islamic State was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them? - No, we shouldn’t.
The SS wasn’t a government organisation, it was a military unit. It’s like having an official account for 101st Airborne. I don’t mind these not being around, but ICE is a federal entity, their primary task is to handle immigration and Customs Enforcement (that’s literally their name). The fact that they got turned into para-SA/SA by the current administration is kinda’ irrelevant here.
We’re not legalists, just cause it’s legal and officially supported by a government doesn’t magically make it moral
Instance admins shouldn’t be moral police.
It’s implicit support of them.
That’s an absolutely insane take. Imagine saying: “allowing Nvidia to have an account on the Fediverse implicitly means the Fediverse supports everything Nvidia is doing with AI and chip/RAM supply”.
No, that’s ridiculous. Verification in online services means that this particular account is verified to be the actual account of said government identity. You just confirm their identity, not state that you’re giddy that they joined, mate.
The thing I’m arguing for is banning instances that open a floodgate.
So using your Johnny Regular example, if he goes postal, they can handle Johnny Regular, not our problem, they had no way to know
But if the server admins are like “🎉 Hey everyone! I know that you will all love to see him, please welcome Mass Murderer Johnny Regular! 🎉”, that’s when you ban the entire instance.
The SS was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them into our servers? Islamic State was a government organisation, are you saying we should welcome them? - No, we shouldn’t.
We’re not legalists, just cause it’s legal and officially supported by a government doesn’t magically make it moral. If an org does terrible things, and that’s well known, then allowing them to join is always bad. It’s implicit support of them.
Did Bsky do this? Or did they just verify an official account of a government entity?
The SS wasn’t a government organisation, it was a military unit. It’s like having an official account for 101st Airborne. I don’t mind these not being around, but ICE is a federal entity, their primary task is to handle immigration and Customs Enforcement (that’s literally their name). The fact that they got turned into para-SA/SA by the current administration is kinda’ irrelevant here.
Instance admins shouldn’t be moral police.
That’s an absolutely insane take. Imagine saying: “allowing Nvidia to have an account on the Fediverse implicitly means the Fediverse supports everything Nvidia is doing with AI and chip/RAM supply”.
Define Verification: to state that you approve of the user/org and officially recognise it. So they did both.
It does. Implicitly
No, that’s ridiculous. Verification in online services means that this particular account is verified to be the actual account of said government identity. You just confirm their identity, not state that you’re giddy that they joined, mate.