We’re so fucked. I seriously have no hope for the future. As long as we elect these politicians that prioritize the economy and deny scientific facts, nothing will change and it’s just going to get worst for the most of us. But those billionaires who are influencing our politics to make those kinds of decisions will be well off, so it’s none of their concerns
As soon as we eliminate these billionaires and eliminate the system that allows them to happen, the better off we will be.
It’s not even the economy. It’s the billionaire economy.
Quick recap: it was a choice between
- bad
- worse
We chose bad, to ensure we didn’t get worse.
Keep that in mind. We can do better, but we almost did way worse.
We had three choices. The NDP, despite people like you, had over the half the votes that the Liberals got in 2021. The “strategic” thing to do would have been for usual Liberal voters to have voted NDP to try to claw our way out of this right-wing shithole but of course “strategic” voting only ever seems to go one way.
We had a choice to make and we failed. We failed because Conservatives are complete morons at every level, giving fair too much strength to people like PP, and because centrists are cowards who demand everyone else accommodate them but who will never make any real sacrifices themselves. We failed because “strategic” voters caved to pressure and fear and voted against their principles and against the longterm health of the country.
And, as always, choosing the center has made it worse. “To ensure it didn’t get worse” is what comes from the mouths of the ignorant. Trudeau only got worse as time went on, and Carney is even more right-wing than he was. Don’t you dare act like you saved anyone from anything.
Are you choosing to ignore the existential threat that we face right now with the US in particular? For which Carney is really the best equipped to manage?
You wanted everyone to vote NDP, when there was no earthly reason to believe that Singh had any ability to navigate these waters, and which would have inevitably given us a Conservative majority.
Unfortunately for us and for the world, the existential threat from the US means we also need to balance, as delicately as possible, our climate change and sustainability goals against the immediate necessity for trade and economic diversification, defense and northern development. Or do you believe we can chase climate goals without our sovereignty?
IS Carney the best equipped to manage it? Says who? He’s great at fuckkng over the working class more than his party ever has, and he’s great at selling our resources instead of controlling them and building our national strength. He’s also tip-toeing around the US like he’s afraid of them after running on that “elbows up” nonsense.
Singh was able to get the NDP to force the Liberal minority government to actually do things for people. And heck, I remembee during CERB times, when the pandemic was still cruising, how the Cons wanted to terminate the program and the Libs wanted to reduce but the NDP kept it at the full strength it needed to be at in order.
The NDP will never be enough for you people and there will always be excuses for the Liberals. Pathetic.
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Solar might not be a good option in Canada. Especially North. Also, I thought batteries go bad in the cold, which is why I am confused that Norway has lots of Teslas.
There is no economic solution to climate change. Factoring in the externalized cost of pollution would make everything unaffordable. Until technologies provide economically viable solutions, the economy is just gonna keep doing what it is currently dependent on to function.
This is the correct answer with the caveat that the solution is an economic solution: alternative energy has to be so economically superior that it overrides the legacy lobbies. Which is getting close to being the case everywhere except extremely corrupt systems like the US.
Do you even know how much governments subsidize the oil industry with taxpayer money? If we stopped tomorrow, we’d have the money to fund these green alternatives. But instead we have billionaire welfare leeches telling our governments what to do.
All I hear are excuses.
Then you’re bad at listening.
No. You’re bad at seeing the reality. How the oil industry is propped up by government subsidies paid for by the working class to finance billionaires who give nothing in return.
Like I said in another comment, the day we stop subsidizing the oil industry is the day we’ll have the money to sunsidise the development of greener alternatives, which will then be affordable. And we’ll all be better off.
Bringing that “No, you are!” Energy.
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Are you guys ready to witness the fall of agriculture? This isnt a hypothetical. We passed the marker that allowed us to halt that eventuality, and not only did we fail to limit future warming, we are doing it faster. If you are under 40, in your lifetime, you will see the modern agricultural sector implode.
There is not a single thing that has been as devastating to the human race as that event will be. Billions, with a B, will die
What marker is that?
The 1.5 C marker. Its a VERY complex topic about why that marker is sort of the canary in the mine for agricultural failure, but it boils down to a few very important things that cant sustain past that rough marker; The mid Atlantic current that allows europe to be habitable north of spain, the plains of mid America will transition to arid rather than temperate, and sub saharan Africa will shift to being much, MUCH further south than it is now.
All these put together devastate our ability to grow crops. Unfortunately, I am mostly only familiar with affects on Western society. I am not hopeful that our eastern friends will have any more luck.
Can you recommend a good resource where one can read about this? I’m behind on this knowledge.
Ok, my impression was that the 1.5 C target was somewhat arbitrary and meant to be an achievable goal to work together to slow global warming.
Edit: I will need to do some more reading
The latest government progress report on Canada’s climate plan shows the country is “significantly off track” to meeting its emissions reduction target for 2030 and 2035, according to the Canadian Climate Institute.
Carney’s environmental policy changes were also unveiled during a year when Canada faced its second-worst wildfire season, second-worst year for ice loss and major heat waves, the severity and frequency of all of which are tied to climate change caused by greenhouse gas emissions, of which the global oil and gas industry is the largest contributor.
Don’t worry kids! There won’t be a 2030 after ww3.
Oh, thank God!
I don’t get it. He wrote a book in which he says that “He believes in the reality of human-driven climate change and the risks it poses to life on this planet.” (link) so I guess he’s making these fossil fuel concessions for the sake of the economy? If he truly understands the risks, what he’s doing seems extremely short sighted.
Maybe our economy is so reliant on fossil fuels we can’t simply stop building new infrastructure? Maybe he knows that solar & batteries are growing so fast that these pro-fossil fuel deals are like a “last meal” to a dying industry? I don’t understand.
it’s reliant on fossil fuel in that the people who make decisions on it are beholden to monied interest that want to keep it going.
Hooray
