I’m sure it’s controversial to say but on a basic 1-10 scale my gay friends rank higher on average than do my straight buddies, and I think that’s about effort, not nature.
I am a bi guy, and this is the least controversial thing ever, imo, lol.
I don’t find the … basically lets call it ‘grooming effort gap’, to be a compelling explanation for the different scoring distributions.
Because… most men actually can tell when a woman is dressed to the nines and quite glammed up or what have you.
They’ll often utterly lack the vocabularly to accurately (muchless politely) describe this, but they have a strong internal heuristic way of doing this.
And most of them account for that in the way they rank the attractiveness of a woman.
By that I mean… they recognize it as gesture that takes effort and signals that someone is trying to be appealing, and that is a good thing…
…but they also know that it acts as a +1 or +2 bonus to the underlying score, or maybe a 1.25x multiplier, something like that, and then you can work backward to the ‘actual’ attractiveness score, basically.
Yet! You still have ~20% of women being rated as pretty darn attractive. Because guys can generally mostly tell when a woman will look quite attractive whether or not they’re in a photoshoot, or just finished running a marathon, or something like that.
This is why there is the whole weird mismatched female vs male social phenomenon of:
“I’m dressing up and doing make up for myself”
vs.
“Yeah, but what does she look like without makeup?”
Like uh… hopefully this isn’t a reality imploding thing to say, but men who value a long term relationship lie all the time to women asking whether or not that dress makes them look fat.
… but all of that is basically just my semi informed opinion, I could not off the top of my head produce like, a cluster of studies that prove that.
I suspect that if I spent enough time doing a meta analysis, I probably could find such studies, but I am currently way too lazy (and not being paid) to do that right now, lol.
I am a bi guy, and this is the least controversial thing ever, imo, lol.
I don’t find the … basically lets call it ‘grooming effort gap’, to be a compelling explanation for the different scoring distributions.
Because… most men actually can tell when a woman is dressed to the nines and quite glammed up or what have you.
They’ll often utterly lack the vocabularly to accurately (muchless politely) describe this, but they have a strong internal heuristic way of doing this.
And most of them account for that in the way they rank the attractiveness of a woman.
By that I mean… they recognize it as gesture that takes effort and signals that someone is trying to be appealing, and that is a good thing…
…but they also know that it acts as a +1 or +2 bonus to the underlying score, or maybe a 1.25x multiplier, something like that, and then you can work backward to the ‘actual’ attractiveness score, basically.
Yet! You still have ~20% of women being rated as pretty darn attractive. Because guys can generally mostly tell when a woman will look quite attractive whether or not they’re in a photoshoot, or just finished running a marathon, or something like that.
This is why there is the whole weird mismatched female vs male social phenomenon of:
“I’m dressing up and doing make up for myself”
vs.
“Yeah, but what does she look like without makeup?”
Like uh… hopefully this isn’t a reality imploding thing to say, but men who value a long term relationship lie all the time to women asking whether or not that dress makes them look fat.
… but all of that is basically just my semi informed opinion, I could not off the top of my head produce like, a cluster of studies that prove that.
I suspect that if I spent enough time doing a meta analysis, I probably could find such studies, but I am currently way too lazy (and not being paid) to do that right now, lol.