Is it possible that you try to convince yourself that you are not in any tribe just becouse you picked yours by being contraitan to two tribes that you haslty drew with crude labels?
WE picked our position match our convictions! THEY picked the convictions to match their position. And we know which is which becouse we know which one is ME.
Well there’s two different layers of discussions that people mix together. One is the discussion in abstract about what it means to be human, the limits of our physical existence, the hubris of technological advancement, the feasibility of singularity, etc… I have opinions here for sure, but the whole topic is open ended and multipolar.
The other is the tangible: the datacenter building, oil burning, water wasting, slop creating, culture exploiting, propoganda manufacturing reality. Here there’s barely any ethical wiggle room and you’re either honest or deluding yourself. But the mere existence of generative Ai can still drive some interesting, if niche, debates (ownership of information, trust in authority and narrative, the cost of convenience…).
So there are different readings of the original meme depending on where you’re coming from:
A deconstruction of the relationship between humans and artificial intelligence – funny
A jab at all techbros selling an AGI singularity – pretty good
Painting anyone with an interest in LLM as an idiot – meh
I don’t think it’s contrarian to like some of those readings/discussions but still be disappointed in the usual shouting matches.
Is it possible that you try to convince yourself that you are not in any tribe just becouse you picked yours by being contraitan to two tribes that you haslty drew with crude labels?
WE picked our position match our convictions! THEY picked the convictions to match their position. And we know which is which becouse we know which one is ME.
I believe “tribalism” refers to the refusal to accept new evidence.
And there is a good evidence that everybody tend to do it. Except of us, obviously.
No one’s saying that anyone never does it. The context is this thread and others like it. One scenario in which it happens with some people.
Well there’s two different layers of discussions that people mix together. One is the discussion in abstract about what it means to be human, the limits of our physical existence, the hubris of technological advancement, the feasibility of singularity, etc… I have opinions here for sure, but the whole topic is open ended and multipolar.
The other is the tangible: the datacenter building, oil burning, water wasting, slop creating, culture exploiting, propoganda manufacturing reality. Here there’s barely any ethical wiggle room and you’re either honest or deluding yourself. But the mere existence of generative Ai can still drive some interesting, if niche, debates (ownership of information, trust in authority and narrative, the cost of convenience…).
So there are different readings of the original meme depending on where you’re coming from:
I don’t think it’s contrarian to like some of those readings/discussions but still be disappointed in the usual shouting matches.