• Gladaed@feddit.org
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    13 hours ago

    Why do people compromise their ideals of humanity for a pedophile? They do major harm, yes. But what is to gain from killing them?

    The death penalty must not exist. And everyone must be given opportunity for redemption.

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      10 hours ago

      There’s a billion other reasons Trump deserves the death penalty including committing multiple genocides.

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      what is to gain from killing them?

      Uh, safety for vulnerable children?

      And some people don’t deserve a chance for redemption by the way… there’s plenty of proof that when evil people (murders, rapists, etc) are released, they do the exact same evil again, which begs the same question: what’s to gain from killing them?

      Safety for all the victims they will claim.

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      I disagree. Purely for the fact that some of the most powerful and influential people on this planet are engaged with a global child sex trafficking ring and are wholly committing to maintaining it. Their connections run the legal systems they would be tried in. If convicted and jailed, their connections also run the prison systems.

      There is no salvaging this situation with these people. They are willing to rape, torture, and murder those they deem are disposable and their opposition. You can’t pose that we live in a just society with them still living. Ideally, maybe, gen-pop like everyone else. But we know better, we clearly see some of them CURRENTLY getting preferential treatment while they are supposed to be in a maximum security prison.

      My morals are intact and uncompromised. Rather than asking what is gained from their deaths; what is lost with them still living? What influence do/will they exert even if rightfully imprisoned?

      You don’t heal a rotten festering limb, you remove it. I won’t dehumanize these people. They are, unfortunately, just as much human as you or me. However, where you and I may wax philosophical about morals and civil society, they have sought to pursue corruption with no concept of a bottom. They have put every effort in place to escape justice and are fully aware of every criminal act they committed.

      They have forfeited any good will that ought to be extended.

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      Eeeeh… No. The only reason you might want to not execute them is so they don’t kill their victims. But the damage they cause…

      No. I wish we still had the guillotine just for them. But Robert Badinter pleaded well enough that we let a child killer live the restbof his days in a cell, paid by us, because apparently it was too brutal to kill a guy who rolled the body of a kid in a carpet under his bed. Fuck that noise.

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      11 hours ago

      I agree that the death penalty shouldn’t exist, but I think what she’s saying is that at least they’re getting punished instead of rewarded with power

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        11 hours ago

        Of course it is what they are trying to say. But using the death penalty as an example of how it would be better isnt acceptable.

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          it’s an interesting question though, would you rather have no punishment for pedos or the death penalty?

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      It doesn’t seem like she’s explicitly advocating for that, but saying that pedos are getting off way too easily in the usa, whereas they would have been executed in somalia.

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      Fool me once, fool me twice. If you are repeating the behaviors that you know are wrong/illegal/harmful, how many times does it take to show you aren’t trying?

      If you’re choosing to harm other people because you enjoy it?

      Death penalty for all? No. Permanent penalty for those showing no remorse and repeat offenders? Yes.

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        No. Everybody can change. Noone is unworthy of a chance.

        Repeat offenders get repeat punishments. Draconian punishments and inflicting suffering and death has no place in a functioning society.

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          Everyone can change, but that doesn’t mean everyone is willing to try. I’m willing to give you the shot, a few times, not forever.

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          Draconian punishments and inflicting suffering and death has no place in a functioning society.

          Yes, that’s why Trump should get the death penalty

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            Can’t make this shit up dude.

            How many repeat offences do you need before you get to the point where you STOP the repeating offender?

            Is it more than 30? I know a dude who’s got 37 indictments related to ONE event. And surprise surprise he the people supposed to judge and try him in a court of law are paid off…