• Deceptichum@quokk.auOP
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    Yet time and time again, polling shows that Americans prefer leftist policies when presented with them independently of party affiliation. As well as younger generations trending further left.

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      Right, but they aren’t presented them independently of party affiliation. They’re told “those scary communists have good policies but they want to destroy America!” And most people believe that.

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        So, wait, if the policies are popular, but the party affiliation isn’t, how the fuck is the go-to strategy to keep the party but give up on the policies instead of the other way around?

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        Right, but they aren’t presented them independently of party affiliation.

        The last candidate who ran on leftist policies was Biden. He won. Of course, he was lying his wrinkly ass off when he did, but he won running on leftist policies.

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      Only just after the election and before the election, during election only the right wingers get elected.

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      time and time again, polling shows that Americans prefer leftist policies when presented with them independently of party affiliation

      So where are all the leftist voters then?

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                Are they though? How about this, can you still call yourself anti-genocide if you vote for the candidate who puts forth a slower, more well marketted genocide where the same bullets in children and attacks still happen, just with a lot of stern faces and some hand wringing?

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                  can you still call yourself anti-genocide if you vote for the candidate who puts forth a slower, more well marketted genocide

                  I mean, yes, objectively? Mathematically, only a Democrat or a Republican can win the United States general election. If you can use your influence to vote for Less Genocide instead of More Genocide, that is what electoral anti-genocide is. You don’t have to like it, but those are the options.

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                    abbotsbury, thats not how it works. Lets see if we can model this another way.
                    By your accounting if a Democratic party candidate said if elected they’d rape 1 kid and the republican said theyd rape 2 kids, you’d count your support of the single-kid rapist as not supporting any kid-rape at all. You’d claim your hands are clean–pristine even. – because you “minimized harm”. And yet a kid would lie raped there with your explicit support having helped it to happen.

                    By my accounting they are both kid rapists. End of story. Thats both my accounting and enough of the massive democratic party progressives wing that “centrists” who think like you do will never win another election again. Being slightly less evil is not enough to win elections, and its not the same thing as being worthy of coexisting peacefully and leading in our society. Does you understand this? Some things like kid rape and genocide are not to be tolerated at all, whether its part of harm minimization or not.

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          Who are these leftist policy politicians that leftists refuse to vote for? I have a suspicion that what you’re referring to as leftist policy is actually liberal policy, and you either don’t understand or care to make the distinction.

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            DNC platform:

            Bodily autonomy

            Tax the rich

            Remove money from politics

            Healthcare for all

            Regulating industries

            Protecting the environment

            Renewable power

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              That’s not borne out by their actions in office. Their actions in office indicate that their platform is genocide and nothing else.

              Make all the excuses you want. You know better.

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                Half of the things on that list were directly accomplished in small parts by the Biden and Obama admins, despite having 48 or less DNC in over 13 years. The problem with your claim is that anybody with a browser can see for themselves that you’re trying to revise history.

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                  despite having 48 or less DNC in over 13 years.

                  Keep parroting this lie. It shows how honest you are in all other things.