• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    5 days ago

    whose fault is it people voted third party?

    I don’t think that’s a productive way to think about things. I mean, I could say “It’s the billionaire’s fault capitalism is destroying our climate” and just go home, safe in the knowledge I didn’t start the fire… but that doesn’t actually help anyone. So I don’t deal in blame.

    Blame is Gefühlspolitik - politics based on emotion. I love Diplomacy because it teaches Realpolitik - politics based on what the optimal move is to make in the current situation.

    In My current situation, I’m not talking to Joe Biden. I can’t change Joe’s mind. I’m talking to you. I can maybe change your mind, if I’m smart enough. I can convince you to adapt your strategy to the situation you find yourself in, to try and buy a few more years before ICE comes for My family. That’s My goal. A few more years for the revolution to grow, a few more years for people to escape.

    Do you want a few more years? And given the current circumstances of the situation, what does your logic and cunning tell you is the best way to get them?

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      4 days ago

      On the contrary, without laying blame the same people that failed stay in power to do it again.

      You are basically saying don’t look backward but forward. But not forward but forever twirling, twirling twirling!

      We need a clear eyed view of the situation, and to employ reason, and reason decrees without qualification that the establishment is doomed to fail, that they aren’t popular, not trying to be popular, and so unable to reliably win at all. That if they do get in will not fix, will not restore, will not enforce the laws against the connected, will continue to allow all captured government agencies to remain so, continue to allow corporations to cheat us, etc.

      Can’t win, won’t be popular, not trying, they quash popular reformists that is their raison de etre. They refuse to address root causes of problems, ie the rich stealing our lunch.

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        4 days ago

        So you’re saying blame is part of Realpolitic? Interesting, but surely it cannot be the entirety of your plan? What’s your idea for preventing or lessening the severity of the trans genocide that’s coming?

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            4 days ago

            Ah. Then I have no idea what you’re talking about.

            I think we should be organising mutual aid networks and teaching self-defence skills so that we can mount an effective militia against the fascist police state, while co-opting the state apparatus with progressive politicians and voting against fascists in the general elections to delay their complete takeover. I think that’s an awfully clear and concise vision of resistance.

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              4 days ago

              I can’t argue with that.

              The dems are worthless and without real leadership it’s hopeless. We can have leadership outside the party, until we take the party, but we can’t stop the organized interests of the fascists/plutocrats without that leadership, and organization.