• Serinus@lemmy.world
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    12 hours ago

    I mean, I generally agree with you, but like most things this isn’t black and white. It’s a nuanced thing that needs to be handled with care. I get it; Large movements are terrible at nuance.

    While we’re two years out from the start of the campaign, we can certainly encourage the Dems to find an actual progressive.

    Hillary was better than Newsom. It’s funny that California Dems are blasted as the most liberal, when they might be the most conservative Dems outside of West Virginia.

    Yes, anything is better than fascism. That point was more important 18 months ago, and might be more important again 12 months from now.

    It’s also important how you say what you have to say. Dems are absolutely not the ones to blame for all this shit. Not doing enough is not the same as directly causing the disaster.

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      9 hours ago

      this isn’t black and white

      please.

      remove fascism vs keep fascism seems pretty “black and white” to me. what the chicken fried fuck are you talking about “nuance” at this point? vote against trump, or do anything else; that’s the choices. ideal? no. reality? yes. you think we should bicker and argue about the “best” person to oppose trump while the fascists are 100% behind whoever the fuck chimpanzee is on the ballot that they’re going to vote for regardless, because they have ® by their name. THAT is how democrats lose

      i’m not “blaming dems”, nor did i imply such at any point anywhere, so you can go ahead and eliminate that bullshit from your argument.

      good luck with your “find an actual progressive” aka 3rd party with about zero chance of actually winning any election for any office anywhere. i will try to come to terms with the fact that we’re in fascism from now on, because not-fascists just can’t seem to grasp “vote against fascism no matter what”

      thanks for your insight. i hope you don’t have kids

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        5 hours ago

        remove fascism vs keep fascism seems pretty “black and white” to me.

        Democrats don’t even want to defund ICE. How are they removing fascism?

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          4 minutes ago

          it never ceases to amaze…

          we have a racist child rapist murderous fascist corrupt-to-the-core fucking con man in the white house

          but hey! let’s talk about all the democrats’ problems!

          any ballot cast that isn’t D all the way down is the objectively wrong choice

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        8 hours ago

        “find an actual progressive” aka 3rd party

        lol no. You don’t get to strawman and then be a rude piece of shit about it.