So I just got finished reading Posobiec’s “Unhumans”, which’s a book with a forward by Bannon, and shout outs from Vance, Trump Jr, etc etc. If I remember right, Vance’s quote was along the lines of “Posobiec shows us what we need to do to counter the left”.
In the book they openly praise fascists and dictators, such as Spain’s Franco. They openly call anyone who doesn’t support fascists/dictators as unhumans, and basically call for unhumans to be killed “because that’s what they’d do to us!”. In their thinking, Donald is a ‘great man’ that upholds “human civilization”, and anyone against him in any way is an ‘unhuman’ looking to destroy civilization. Why shouldn’t the great people of the nation get to molest children, as they’re the reason we have civilization at all!
I think that book was published in 2023 or 2024. So the elite / upper class of the Republican party and of America more broadly, have been openly, vocally, and emphatically supporting Fascism and Dictators, as well as treating regular ‘citizens’ as enemies/threats that need to be stomped on, since before the election. JD Vance, the VP, and Trump Jr (so the trumps who maybe can read) openly support moving to a fascist dictatorship. Project 2025 was a more ‘operational’ plan, but these people have been openly broadcasting this stuff for a long time now. And Americans voted for them all the same, and haven’t revolted against it or anything.
Thanks for the reminder, I keep meaning to read that.
I think because it’s so obvious how dangerous these people are is why I’m so exasperated with the apathetic voters, not to mention the reactionary centrists, and not some small amount of the left.
Like it’s full of absolute horseshit and batshit takes on history. I spent the first couple chapters checking their citations / references. They were mostly misleading citations, and snippets of things, mashed very poorly into a shape that they then tried to wedge into their fascist manifesto. These shit heads literally quote twitter to try and prove points. At one point the author cites his own op ed. But like, even the stuff they’re trying to cite to support their arguments, if you want to pretend that twitter was viable as a ‘source’, they’re pointing at posts by ppl with 100k followers, which have just like 300 upvotes. So even in a captive audience that’s at least in theory ‘interested’ in the drivel these guys spout, only 0.3% of the people agree. They even include things like twitter post grammatical errors that botch the message.
A more concrete example: they claim at one point that Scott Adams (dilbert) was cancelled for saying (paraphrasing this): “Just one thing, that everyone agrees with: that you should avoid groups of people who hate you”. I mean, a quick search finds a bit of controversy related to Adams saying something more direct/overtly racist, like “White people should just stay away from black people”. He also had a history of similar such comments going back years and years before he lost a bunch of his distributors. But these neo fascists are just like “nononono, just look at this one thing, that we’ve totally reframed to try and make it less racist! Now pretend that single de-racist-ified comment was the only reason he lost work / people stopped wanting to see his stuff! See! Evil unhuman lefties!”.
It’s really something else to see this sort of drivel, lauded by these core right-wing figures, be so shittily constructed. Like the most basic checking of their assertions, makes it fall apart. Every page would be filled with corrections, edits, issues, etc if this had gone through any higher level peer review. In that alone, its worthwhile to read it to get a sense of just how rigorously the “elite” of the USA actually think about … anything.
I’ve read that one too – not sure if it was the fault of the translators, but it had better structure to it. Like the ideas were still half baked nonsense, and the rhetoric was very blood and soil ish nationalist plonk. But it’s rhetoric/prose was more convincing/plausible.
But the American one is just… like it isn’t even consistent with its self… it’s just utter trash.
I had a good idea of who and what these people are since I’ve been posting and lurking on various forums since the BBS days, through Usenet, and onwards.
When Donvict got “elected” the first time, you never saw so much hateful rhetoric from these types that suddenly felt they had a permission structure to say whatever they wanted because of Donvict. Obviously, some videos went viral where these Karens and Kens had meltdowns in public. But definitely the temperature went way up online. It was off the chart on Diaspora. I never blocked so many people in my life as I did on that platform in 2016 and 2017.
I knew Donvict was trouble for two reasons - first, they gave all these idiots a “uniform” right off the bat with those stupid hats. Same with his flawed character - he was a well-known figure even back in the 80s, and most (decent) people thought he was a total asshole.
Lastly, when it comes to conservatives and Republicans, they have a habit of calling anyone and everyone not in their little circlejerk a “Communist” and then trying to dehumanize them based on that bullshit characterization.
Online, you’ll notice the right just assumes everyone that doesn’t love Nazi bullshit and Donvict is a “Communist” and tricked by the Jews into trying to “replace” the white xtian man, etc…they’ve been saying this kind of shit for literal decades when they think they are among like-minded individuals, or anonymous.
The fact that they published such a book and it now gets endorsements from the likes of the VP should shock no one. If people thought that the Republican Party and the John Birch Society really ever had any distance from each other they were in deep denial.
So I just got finished reading Posobiec’s “Unhumans”, which’s a book with a forward by Bannon, and shout outs from Vance, Trump Jr, etc etc. If I remember right, Vance’s quote was along the lines of “Posobiec shows us what we need to do to counter the left”.
In the book they openly praise fascists and dictators, such as Spain’s Franco. They openly call anyone who doesn’t support fascists/dictators as unhumans, and basically call for unhumans to be killed “because that’s what they’d do to us!”. In their thinking, Donald is a ‘great man’ that upholds “human civilization”, and anyone against him in any way is an ‘unhuman’ looking to destroy civilization. Why shouldn’t the great people of the nation get to molest children, as they’re the reason we have civilization at all!
I think that book was published in 2023 or 2024. So the elite / upper class of the Republican party and of America more broadly, have been openly, vocally, and emphatically supporting Fascism and Dictators, as well as treating regular ‘citizens’ as enemies/threats that need to be stomped on, since before the election. JD Vance, the VP, and Trump Jr (so the trumps who maybe can read) openly support moving to a fascist dictatorship. Project 2025 was a more ‘operational’ plan, but these people have been openly broadcasting this stuff for a long time now. And Americans voted for them all the same, and haven’t revolted against it or anything.
Thanks for the reminder, I keep meaning to read that.
I think because it’s so obvious how dangerous these people are is why I’m so exasperated with the apathetic voters, not to mention the reactionary centrists, and not some small amount of the left.
It’s worth a read.
Like it’s full of absolute horseshit and batshit takes on history. I spent the first couple chapters checking their citations / references. They were mostly misleading citations, and snippets of things, mashed very poorly into a shape that they then tried to wedge into their fascist manifesto. These shit heads literally quote twitter to try and prove points. At one point the author cites his own op ed. But like, even the stuff they’re trying to cite to support their arguments, if you want to pretend that twitter was viable as a ‘source’, they’re pointing at posts by ppl with 100k followers, which have just like 300 upvotes. So even in a captive audience that’s at least in theory ‘interested’ in the drivel these guys spout, only 0.3% of the people agree. They even include things like twitter post grammatical errors that botch the message.
A more concrete example: they claim at one point that Scott Adams (dilbert) was cancelled for saying (paraphrasing this): “Just one thing, that everyone agrees with: that you should avoid groups of people who hate you”. I mean, a quick search finds a bit of controversy related to Adams saying something more direct/overtly racist, like “White people should just stay away from black people”. He also had a history of similar such comments going back years and years before he lost a bunch of his distributors. But these neo fascists are just like “nononono, just look at this one thing, that we’ve totally reframed to try and make it less racist! Now pretend that single de-racist-ified comment was the only reason he lost work / people stopped wanting to see his stuff! See! Evil unhuman lefties!”.
It’s really something else to see this sort of drivel, lauded by these core right-wing figures, be so shittily constructed. Like the most basic checking of their assertions, makes it fall apart. Every page would be filled with corrections, edits, issues, etc if this had gone through any higher level peer review. In that alone, its worthwhile to read it to get a sense of just how rigorously the “elite” of the USA actually think about … anything.
From what I’ve heard, Mein Kampf is similarly drivel. Don’t know if that’s comforting or even more depressing…
I’ve read that one too – not sure if it was the fault of the translators, but it had better structure to it. Like the ideas were still half baked nonsense, and the rhetoric was very blood and soil ish nationalist plonk. But it’s rhetoric/prose was more convincing/plausible.
But the American one is just… like it isn’t even consistent with its self… it’s just utter trash.
I had a good idea of who and what these people are since I’ve been posting and lurking on various forums since the BBS days, through Usenet, and onwards.
When Donvict got “elected” the first time, you never saw so much hateful rhetoric from these types that suddenly felt they had a permission structure to say whatever they wanted because of Donvict. Obviously, some videos went viral where these Karens and Kens had meltdowns in public. But definitely the temperature went way up online. It was off the chart on Diaspora. I never blocked so many people in my life as I did on that platform in 2016 and 2017.
I knew Donvict was trouble for two reasons - first, they gave all these idiots a “uniform” right off the bat with those stupid hats. Same with his flawed character - he was a well-known figure even back in the 80s, and most (decent) people thought he was a total asshole.
Lastly, when it comes to conservatives and Republicans, they have a habit of calling anyone and everyone not in their little circlejerk a “Communist” and then trying to dehumanize them based on that bullshit characterization.
Online, you’ll notice the right just assumes everyone that doesn’t love Nazi bullshit and Donvict is a “Communist” and tricked by the Jews into trying to “replace” the white xtian man, etc…they’ve been saying this kind of shit for literal decades when they think they are among like-minded individuals, or anonymous.
The fact that they published such a book and it now gets endorsements from the likes of the VP should shock no one. If people thought that the Republican Party and the John Birch Society really ever had any distance from each other they were in deep denial.