As funny as this is, there is some bull crap reason in the books explaining that muggle devices tend to not work well when close to places with too much magic
So there’s this game called Arknights, which is set in a universe where they didn’t figure out the gunpowder, but they have rocks that can be used to fuel the magic (and also give you magic rock cancer, go figure). So they have guns, but they’re basically only usable by one race of characters that are known for their innate talent for precise magic control, and everyone else sticks to crossbows and ballistas, or else more traditional magic.
This made me think about what would make a magic gun in the setting superior to a regular gun. Assuming it’s just more powerful it shouldn’t make much difference since everyone is just running around with a wand that can kill someone at will anyways. In the case of the weird wand connections that I barely remember even happening outside of one scene in the books (and more often in the films) I suppose it would be useful.
The main advantage of a gun would seem that it is instant (no incantation, just aiming) and could probably be silenced.
Rate of fire, accuracy, range, and additional bullshit. Most of the limitations on fire arms are due to material science, weight, or just keeping it clean for example a lot of MGs have overheat issues with continuous fire, heavier rifles weigh a lot, and caseless firearms are stupidly complex making them prone to failing due to dirt build up for example.
Mind you this depends on the settings limitations but something as simple as a cooling rune on an MG42 turns into from the huns buzzsaw into the huns sawmill since there would be at minimum reduced risk of barrel slag. You could have single soldiers treating M2 browning like fucking grease guns, weild .50 cal snipers like 1911s, or teleport ammo right into a Heckler & Koch G11 so as to never have to disassemble it to reload.
That’s just what I can think of off the top of my head, if the setting allows you could probably create a magitech self charging lasgun from Warhammer 40k, so basically just an archeotech lasgun from 40k.
To quote Speaker D “This is because the metric for OH, FU- is three to six guys with shotguns hanging out somewhere they weren’t expecting”. This is a quote in relation to World of Darkness by the way.
You make a good point, I had not really considered magic guns on the baddie side which is probably the only one which would use it. I was mostly considering single targets which is mostly all that the protagonists fight.
A magic gun could probably also have been used to non fatally injure the dragon in the tri wizard cup.
This whole thing about wands being able to do basically the same as a gun also me realize that one could see the Harry Potter books as a group of kids with stun guns and gadgets fighting the idiot baddies who just use guns and can’t get a single plan to go right because of some dumb bs.
Like we’ve seen them use fire at hogwarts. Simple chemical reactions still occur. That’s all a gun is, a spark, gunpowder, and a tube. Frankly this is just potions class
Percy Jackson did this so much better by explaining only imperial gold or celestial bronze can be used to craft weapons that could harm powerful entities.
So naturally some dude loaded celestial bronze bullets into his warplane’s (probably .50 cal M2) machine guns lol
I really like the way that The Dresden Files handles it.
Magic tends to fuck with precision mechanics and electrical systems, which means that modern weapons are much more likely to jam when in the presence of magic auras.
As a result, the main character, who is a wizard tends to use a .44 revolver as his sidearm because anything more precise is going to be unreliable.
Step one would to be a wizard I guess, otherwise you’ll never even find the castle and forgot what you were doing so you are just back to trying to find someone wanting to play corn hole
As funny as this is, there is some bull crap reason in the books explaining that muggle devices tend to not work well when close to places with too much magic
Revolvers would work, surely. There’s zero electronics and an extremely simple internal mechanism. If door hinges work, so should revolvers
Artillery it is then.
So there’s this game called Arknights, which is set in a universe where they didn’t figure out the gunpowder, but they have rocks that can be used to fuel the magic (and also give you magic rock cancer, go figure). So they have guns, but they’re basically only usable by one race of characters that are known for their innate talent for precise magic control, and everyone else sticks to crossbows and ballistas, or else more traditional magic.
Edit: typo
This made me think about what would make a magic gun in the setting superior to a regular gun. Assuming it’s just more powerful it shouldn’t make much difference since everyone is just running around with a wand that can kill someone at will anyways. In the case of the weird wand connections that I barely remember even happening outside of one scene in the books (and more often in the films) I suppose it would be useful.
The main advantage of a gun would seem that it is instant (no incantation, just aiming) and could probably be silenced.
Rate of fire, accuracy, range, and additional bullshit. Most of the limitations on fire arms are due to material science, weight, or just keeping it clean for example a lot of MGs have overheat issues with continuous fire, heavier rifles weigh a lot, and caseless firearms are stupidly complex making them prone to failing due to dirt build up for example.
Mind you this depends on the settings limitations but something as simple as a cooling rune on an MG42 turns into from the huns buzzsaw into the huns sawmill since there would be at minimum reduced risk of barrel slag. You could have single soldiers treating M2 browning like fucking grease guns, weild .50 cal snipers like 1911s, or teleport ammo right into a Heckler & Koch G11 so as to never have to disassemble it to reload.
That’s just what I can think of off the top of my head, if the setting allows you could probably create a magitech self charging lasgun from Warhammer 40k, so basically just an archeotech lasgun from 40k.
To quote Speaker D “This is because the metric for OH, FU- is three to six guys with shotguns hanging out somewhere they weren’t expecting”. This is a quote in relation to World of Darkness by the way.
You make a good point, I had not really considered magic guns on the baddie side which is probably the only one which would use it. I was mostly considering single targets which is mostly all that the protagonists fight.
A magic gun could probably also have been used to non fatally injure the dragon in the tri wizard cup.
Why bother with small arms at all when you could teleport hundreds or even thousands of MOABs directly where they need to be?
This whole thing about wands being able to do basically the same as a gun also me realize that one could see the Harry Potter books as a group of kids with stun guns and gadgets fighting the idiot baddies who just use guns and can’t get a single plan to go right because of some dumb bs.
If I recall that was just electronics no?
Like we’ve seen them use fire at hogwarts. Simple chemical reactions still occur. That’s all a gun is, a spark, gunpowder, and a tube. Frankly this is just potions class
Yeah, its all mechanical. Put a machine gun up in one of the towers
and when Voldermort and the gang roll up in a nice tidy group open up.
Malfoy:
Percy Jackson did this so much better by explaining only imperial gold or celestial bronze can be used to craft weapons that could harm powerful entities.
So naturally some dude loaded celestial bronze bullets into his warplane’s (probably .50 cal M2) machine guns lol
I really like the way that The Dresden Files handles it.
Magic tends to fuck with precision mechanics and electrical systems, which means that modern weapons are much more likely to jam when in the presence of magic auras.
As a result, the main character, who is a wizard tends to use a .44 revolver as his sidearm because anything more precise is going to be unreliable.
Do you think “too much magic” can stand up to “too much MURICA?” I think not, good sir.
All he has to do is chant the spell “AMERICA, FUCK YEAH!”
Right, so no shotguns? Easy. Sniper rifles, no problem.
Step one would to be a wizard I guess, otherwise you’ll never even find the castle and forgot what you were doing so you are just back to trying to find someone wanting to play corn hole
The gun is his patronus