• osanna@lemmy.vg
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    5 hours ago

    yeah, but that’s why they privatise public services. Worked out so well for australia, to this date /s cough telstra cough

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    The entire point of government is to correct for market failures. Public services shouldn’t try to make a profit, because if something were profitable the private sector would’ve provided it already.

    The “profit” of a government service comes in the form of positive externalities.

  • turdburglar@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    they should explicitly not make a profit. they should reinvest anything left over in infrastructure improvements.

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    In fact, it would be detrimental to their budget to do so. If I’m budgeting various government services and see that a specific service is consistently ending the year with a lot of unspent money, I’ll lower their budget so that the money can be spent where it’s needed.

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      11 hours ago

      This is actually a bad thing that leads to wasteful spending. Use it or lose it budgeting creates perverse incentives to continuously spend.

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        11 hours ago

        As someone who has worked in the public sector for nearly two decades, this is spot on. The real fix would be to modify government accounting laws so that appropriated funding doesn’t just expire at the end of any given fiscal year, or at a bare minimum make fiscal years longer than 12 months and have them overlap each other to some extent.

      • prime_number_314159@lemmy.world
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        I think it’s easy to misunderstand the difference between appropriated money (money someone is allowed to spend) and spent money (money that’s used, adds to the debt, etc). If you do something like allow a large portion of unspent allocation to roll over to future years (like… 95%) then some departments/agencies/etc will save up huge stockpiles of allocation - like places that will need to replace a satellite or renovate a large office building, or buy a new piece of land, or… Etc. This doesn’t add anything to the national debt, but makes for a scary headline - which is practically the worst thing for Congress.

        The likely outcome would be lower spending, but there’s the faintest possibility that every civil servant in the whole government simultaneously decides that this is the year to renovate their office building, buy new computers, upgrade the coffee machine, and stock up on printer ink… And that would be very expensive, that year.

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        You’re right, I didn’t consider that viewpoint. However, I think this problem might not always be the case, especially in a nation with few problems related to corruption or general lack of checks and balances. If you have functioning oversight and annual presentation of projected expenditures, frivolous spending shouldn’t be a major issue.

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    11 hours ago

    They are paid by citizens in the form of taxes in a sane society.

    Edit: Including companies and billionaires, which should take the lead.

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      10 hours ago

      Billionaires should not exist in a sane society. Money isn’t just a prize for doing well, it’s unelected power, and people use it as an excuse to be selfish and shitty.

      It’s like Reddit karma IRL.