The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.The line Joe Biden used to put into nearly every big speech — “I’ve never been more optimistic about America’s future” — is a long way from what he says in private now.

These days, multiple people who’ve spoken to him over the last year say, Biden often punctuates conversations with: “You think we can actually come back from this?”

The 83-year-old Biden continues to feel out a post-presidency that may prove to be one of the shortest in history and is already one of the most complicated.

There are days when Biden is heartbroken, indignant or in disbelief about what is happening as President Donald Trump — the man he defeated in 2020 — returned and moved not just to tear down his accomplishments, but to dig in with petty insults like the autopen photograph he put in Biden’s spot in the “Presidential Walk of Fame” installed at the White House.

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    Its interesting how “we told you this would lose” equates to "you will lose because you alienate leftists.

    The reality is voter apathy and a majority of the population choosing not to vote because they see no difference between the outcome regardless of who wins.

    Democrats will do the same shit to appease Their donor bosses, they just feel a little bit of shame about the means they think justify those ends. Thats why youll never hear libs talking about somthing like abolishing ice, only better training them so they have less collateral damage.

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      The people who don’t see a difference are fucking morons. Biden never invaded any US cities.

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        Yes, dude the majority of American voters are morons. The people in this thread you are arguing against are not the same group, we are trying to advocate how to engage that moronic majority.

        Advocate for policies that impact their life. Spending billions on Isreal, to fund their genocide or not, instead of domestically is a huge issue that people care about. Pointing out the genocide was pointing to the way the wind was blowing for public support.

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          ml is full of people who were advocating not voting because Harris wouldn’t condemn Israel loudly enough. Yes, it would be great to focus on improving the lives of Americans but there’s zero chance of that while republicans have a trifecta. Democrats can at least be pressured into doing the right thing sometimes.

          Your comment reads like you think I’m a DNC strategist or something. I can’t directly control their messaging, but I can try to point out to people that by the time November comes around there are only two possible outcomes and having a hissy fit about Gaza is only going to make the world a worse place and that “I can’t vote for genocide” just helped the guy who is gleefully embracing all the genocides.

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            No I don’t think you’re an operative, but what I see (not just from you but plenty of people in online discourse) is excusing the actions of the Democratic party solely because Trump is bad.

            The point that I will continue to shout from the top of the mountains, is that lesser evilism as a political strategy only enables fascism. We cannot counter its rise and current prevalence by just being slightly better. It takes bold impactful direction on how to improve people’s lives to energize and engage the population.

            The average voter doesn’t care if a leader gleefully embraces genocide or just tactically enables genocide to fuel the military industrial complex. The outcome of wasted tax dollars to kill children is still the same. When we enable fascism abroad it always comes back to be used against us. We can see that with local police forces training with the IDF. Imperial Boomerang.

            “Well at least democrats aren’t killing Americans” inevitably is the next step of justification. But here’s the thing, democrats don’t use their opportunities to de-miltarize domestic law enforcement. They are responsible for co-opting and killing 2020 BLM demands. They are responsible for folding during the 2025 government shut down and fully funding ICE.

            We deserve better. It’s okay to say so. It’s necessary for us to demand it. You and I are not ideological enemies (I would hope).

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                    My piefed client voyager put this reply in a different place than the website browser so I feel the need to reply to this again.

                    .ml thinks Ukrainians are nazis and are actively cheering for Russia’s genocide of them.

                    This is clear if you spend any time on .ml’s instance.

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                    No you can look at the results of any vote in modern times and see that democrats are either the most popular party or the second most.

                    That’s substantial evidence.

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              True, but they like to complain about it. If Harris had pledged to defend Gaza they would have just found some other excuse.

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                  I doubt it.

                  They were looking for any excuse to not vote for her. The fact that the wedge issue they picked is still worse off under Trump is evidence they never really cared about it in the first place. If they actually cared about Gaza, voting for Harris as the imperfect but better and more readily influenced candidate would have been the right answer.

                  If she had said the right words on Gaza they would have moved to not being good enough on trans rights or something.

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                    They were looking for any excuse to not vote for her. The fact that the wedge issue they picked is still worse off under Trump is evidence they never really cared about it in the first place. If they actually cared about Gaza, voting for Harris as the imperfect but better and more readily influenced candidate would have been the right answer.

                    Cool narrative, provide evidence leftists by and large don’t actually care about Palestinians or it is just that, an abstract narrative.

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        You are wasting your time my friend, these people will endlessly perform mental gymnastics to overcomplicate this into being something more than harm reduction.

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        Obama was the one who started building some of the camps both biden and trump use to imprison migrants. Tell that to all the people whos relatives they deported.

        This is what i mean by no differnce in outcome, because yeah sure the dems are more sly about it, they dont “invade” cities, they let the state governments handle delpoying cops against protests, but they still fund the same agencies with the same agendas, they just have more competency about how to do it without making as much noise.