• Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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    10 hours ago

    Are westerners only able to conceptualise the killing of civilians? Are they so far removed from having normal countries that they forget that wars are fought between armies?

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      10 hours ago

      Talk about cultural chauvinism.

      The implication here is: “You people are detached, soft, and incapable of understanding real war.” That’s not an argument. That’s a moral superiority pose. It frames one group as hardened realists and the other as naïve spectators. Historically, that kind of framing is how conflicts get emotionally escalated. Dehumanization rarely begins with slurs. It begins with sweeping generalizations.

      And the irony is thick. You’re accusing me of only conceptualizing civilian deaths, while simultaneously minimizing the reality that modern warfare absolutely does kill civilians. The idea that wars are cleanly fought “between armies” belongs in the 19th century, not the 21st. Civilian harm is a central moral and legal issue in contemporary conflict. That’s not Western fragility. That’s international humanitarian law.

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        9 hours ago

        The implication here is: “You people are detached, soft, and incapable of understanding real war.”

        No the implication is that westerners love killing civilians so much that they forget that wars are fought between militaries. I’ll be more clear about this next time.

        That’s not an argument. That’s a moral superiority pose.

        You want an argument? It’s trivial to give one. All western countries have been involved in warmongering in west asia since before I was born. There is full justification for any group in west asia to launch attacks on western military assets.

        Even under international law (which western militaries refuse to follow), retaliating against military attacks is fully allowed. America and its zionist occupation of Palestine attacked Iran (military targets and civilians), and even inside its borders and capital city*. The Iranian state has every right to bomb any American military target, even if it were inside US border.

        *this isn’t the first time either. The Americans did this last year, and even in trump’s 1rst term

        minimizing the reality that modern warfare absolutely does kill civilians

        Sure, there are civilians casualties from war. So should America be allowed to bomb and genocide whoever they want with no one fighting back?

        Civilian harm is a central moral and legal issue in contemporary conflict. That’s not Western fragility. That’s international humanitarian law.

        Lmao western militaries do not give a single fuck about civilians or collateral damage or international law. You really want to present the butchers of gaza as some sort of hippies in 2026?

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          3 hours ago

          So just to be clear, are civilians legitimate targets as long as they live in the “wrong” country?

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            3 hours ago

            Reading comprehension curse strikes again

            I have never once advocated for the deliberate targeting of civilians and have specified again and again that warfighting should be between militaries.