What’s your criticism here? Is it possible that your criticism is unfounded or missing some key considerations? What evidence would convince you?

Be specific, which of my criticism are you claiming to be unfounded, what key considerations am I missing?

Yeah they’re called foundational values.

Values held in face of material reality is just dogma. For example, let’s take your claims about liberalism. It is an ideology that exists to justify capitalist relations that emerged as a counter to feudalism. It consists of two main parts. First is political liberalism which focuses on individual freedoms, democracy, and human rights which you’re referring to. However, there is a second economic aspect to the system which centers around free markets, private property, and wealth accumulation. These two aspects form a contradiction. Political liberalism purports to support everyone’s freedom, while economic liberalism enshrines private property rights as sacred in laws and constitutions, effectively removing them from political debate.

Liberalism literally justifies the use of state violence to safeguard property rights. It puts the interests of capital over those of ordinary people directly contradicting the promise of fairness and equality you stated. Liberalism treats private property as a key aspect of individual freedom, and uses that as justification for the rich to keep their wealth while ignoring the needs of everyone else. The talk of freedom and democracy is just a fig leaf to provide cover for justifying capitalist relations. Your conflation with wellbeing of Canada with liberalism is itself profoundly dishonest. The whole notion that your personal vision of Canada is the only valid one is perverse. Different people have different views and values, and your values have no privileged position. If the system you promote leads to mass destitution, then it is right to question it. Decades of liberal rule created an economy where majority of people can’t even afford a home anymore. That’s a failed system.

People like you are cultists. You are fundamentally incapable of criticizing the western liberal system or seeing obvious problems with it. Instead of honestly engaging with criticism in good faith, you use ad hominem to shut down discussion, and retreat into your fantasy world. People like you are literally destroying Canada because you stand in the way of any meaningful change.

The only concerning part here is that somebody who’s never been to China, never talked to people who live there, and likely couldn’t find it on a map, has strong opinions about the country.

Your original claim that having different understanding of things somehow taints criticisms of Canada implies that there’s a set of accepted views that cannot be challenged or diverged from. That’s a description of an echo chamber.

Ah yes, wrongly imprisoned like the two spies we sent there in retaliation to us kidnapping a CFO of one of their major companies at the behest of the burger reich, who is an actual civilian. I guess it would be really inconvenient for propagandists like you if people actually start going to China and seeing it for themselves.

You’re saying that engaging with reality instead of simply guzzling propaganda against the designated adversary is unwelcome in liberal bubbles?

I love how all you do is pearl clutching, but can’t actually engage with the substance of what’s being said to you

Behold the greatest advance in Liberal Theory since Harry Potter.

O7

If you genuinely cannot tell I was making fun of you in that thread then I really am worried for you. Do get yourself checked ASAP.

Oh I thought you were emphatically done making a clown of yourself here. I guess not. Evidence for your claim in literally your last comment:

If you want to make some argument that Carney is playing favorites with Israel - which, again, fuck Nathanyahu and the politics of the state of Israel - you’re going to have to demonstrate that Carney has been tough on Russia while being kind to Israel.

I’ve provided you links with official statements from Carney and his cabinet clearly stating that the policy has not changed. You’re claiming there is some change, it is on you to back that idea up. What you did here was to literally make up a point out of thin air that Craney has not been tough on Russia as Trudeau has. What is your evidence?

Please, provide links to show what policies Carney changed. I asked you earlier, did he remove sanctions on Russia, did he change trade policies, or restore relations. What change has there been. You are the one making the claim that there is no continuation of policy. It is on you to substantiate that.

I have presented exactly the same argument as the other thread you’re referring to, but since you lack even a shred of intellectual integrity you continue to pretend that this is somehow different.

You very clearly have nothing better to do. You’ve exposed yourself as a liar, and multiple people called you out. Now you’re doing the whole ‘I have better things to do’ jig when asked for evidence. Pathetic!

Yeah, that was me literally making a joke about you communicating in a way of a chat bot and perhaps deserving to talk to one instead of an actual human. Given that you’re not able to tell obvious sarcasm, might want to get yourself checked, could be serious https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2011/04/98290/inability-detect-sarcasm-lies-may-be-early-sign-dementia-ucsf-study-shows

You are literally the only one trying to weave a tale of Carney having some break with the Trudeau government on policy. Which is in fact a fantastical idea Still waiting for you to provide a shred of evidence for the claims you made.

p.s. I love how it’s immediately time for you to move on when asked to back up your claims. Couldn’t be more transparent.

obligatory quote from This Soviet World by Anna Louise Strong

Absolutely love how you trolls start braying about LLMs when you can’t actually put together a counter point to what’s being said to you. The fact that you can’t process humor, really shows who’s acting like a chat bot though. You are a very persistent troll, but it’s ok, I’ve dealt with your kind before.

maybe go follow your own advice there

clutch your pearls harder

I explained, very clearly and repeatedly why Carney is applying double standard in his stance on Russia and Israel. Also, if you’re going to use terms like ad hominem, at least learn what they mean. Ad hominem would be me saying you’re wrong because you’re an imbecile. I’ve explained why you’re wrong on its own terms, and I also happen to think you are an imbecile.

You continue to accuse me of lying, but here we see the height of intellectual dishonesty with you pretending that Carney has a different stance on Russia than Trudeau. Since you’re the one making this fantastical claim, the burden of proof is on you. Please demonstrate any evidence at all that Carney has a different stance on Russia. Which of Trudeau’s policies has Carney changed on Russia. Has he lifted any sanctions, has he changed any rhetoric, please provide evidence to support your claims. Or is your argument genuinely this purely vibes based take of “well it came to me in a dream”?

Meanwhile, I can easily point to what Carney and his cabinet have said in public regarding Russia, no such rhetoric exists regarding Israel

• https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-01-20/russia-is-without-question-a-threat-in-the-arctic-carney-says
• https://nationalpost.com/news/politics/russias-information-war-against-canada-increasingly-successful-top-security-official
• https://halifax.citynews.ca/2026/01/09/canada-condemns-russias-use-of-hypersonic-missile-as-escalation-in-ukraine-war
• https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iW8M_3nhpaU
• https://globalnews.ca/news/11406786/russia-incursion-poland-mark-carney-condemnation

But let’s be clear here, your only purpose is to lie and clutch your pearls like the shameless liberal that you are. I’ll wait for you to provide any actual evidence to back up your fantastical story there.

Except, as I’ve already explained, there is zero evidence Carney changed his stance on Russia. In fact, literally everything he’s publicly said indicates continuation of agenda.

The only thing you’re making is an artless strawman aimed at people without any critical thinking skills, which I must assume are your usual social circles.

I do love your audacity of attempting to spread your hamfisted bullshit here whole accusing me of some supposed lies. Only thing you’ve been successful at is demonstrating that you’re utterly unhinged in your attempts to play hall monitor here.

Your mania of being prosecuted is absolutely hilarious by the way. Nobody is trying to silence.your dumb ass here, you’re just a court jester for the instance.

My arguments are clear, and anybody with even minimal reading comprehension can understand them. The fact that I get under your skin is entirely your problem. Keep on throwing your tantrums, I’m here for it.

Literally nobody here is making the argument that Carneys government isn’t responsible for what Trudeau’s government did in 2022. That’s just an idiotic straw man you keep trotting out to distract from the fact that there’s no consistency in the policy. Last I checked, Carney’s stance on Russia is the exact same as that of Trudeau’s government in 2022.

The only one being incorrect and intentionally dishonest here is you, as you’ve been in every single interaction I’ve had with you. You’re a deplorable troll and you should be deeply ashamed of yourself.

The fact that you still think you’ll run me out of here by clowning around really highlights the quality of your intellect. Get used to me posting here. Really looking forward to seeing more tantrums form you.

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