Top Capitol Hill Democrats, and a small number of Republicans, watched in alarm Saturday as the US launched a major assault on Iran, decrying Donald Trump’s call for the overthrow of another foreign government without their expressed approval.

Trump ordered the strikes on Tehran just days before the GOP-led House and Senate are each set to formally debate and vote on US military action in Iran. Democrats, along with at least three Republicans, say the president’s decision, with lawmakers scattered across the nation and not planning to return to Washington for days, raises serious questions about the legality of the attack.

“It’s a slap in the face of the United States Congress. The president has launched an illegal war when there is no imminent threat. He did not consult with Congress or allow for a debate in Congress, which even George W. Bush did,” Democratic Rep. Ro Khanna of California told CNN on Saturday morning.

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      Which is why, if Dems retake power, priority #1 has to be barring these goddamn MAGAts from ever voting again. And executing the leaders. Extreme? Yes. But nothing else fixes this and anyone saying otherwise is a moron.

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          Everyone who supported the Jan 6 insurrection should be ineligible to hold office per the existing amendments, for starters.

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          Ideally anyone who voted Trump this go around. A vote to dismantle democracy should permanently remove their participation from it. And if they claim they didn’t know this would happen, if they were too stupid to believe the warnings after all this time democracy is better off without them.

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    Congress: We can’t believe he did this. We are going to vote on whether he should have been allowed to do it after he did it!

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    Oh man if this passes it will be a “stunning rebuke”. It won’t actually do anything because the President would still have to sign it.

    Wow. That’ll show 'em.

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      Dems again only upset they didn’t get told before/allowed to vote for the war/attacks before they happened like last time he hit Iran and kidnapped Venezuelans leader

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      So if I read that right it would possibly mean Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, a representative from Florida Brad Sherman of California (Sheila stepped down in November) may be the one being manipulated or doing the manipulation.

      The darker side of the article seems to state several Democrats agree that attacking Iran would be a political catastrophe so if Trump did it, it may assist in regaining hold of either the Senate or the House so they would have the numbers to potentially stop future issues.

      Dark Because the sacrifices that are brought to the table, but in truth… they aren’t the ones who put them on the table.

      Basically, do we have the numbers to stop this? No. So should we allow it to fail spectacularly to use it to our advantage? Maybe.

      Every life lost was chosen by the White Houses actions, it’s crazy that representatives have to even debate how us peasants may or may not benefit by their deaths.

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        Im not sure where you are jumping to that. It’s not like we need to bury the lede here:

        Schumer, one of the top recipients of funding from the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) and other pro-Israel donors, has limited his criticisms of Trump’s war posturing to questions of procedure rather than policy.

        Sr. Democrats avoided/ the vote because it’s a military action Israel want the US to do. Schumer and Jefferies are practically foreign agents operating on behalf of Israel at this point. Schumer has explicitly said he works on behalf of Israel.

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          Also just for a heads up, Brandon Sherman the one who replaced Sheila is a 71 year old Jewish man who had $777,000 of AIPAC funding for his election, and is quoted by the government to have secured $21 million for a U.S. Israel co-op

          https://sherman.house.gov/media-center/press-releases/congressman-sherman-secures-over-21-million-for-us-israel-cooperative

          He may be a bigger proponent for pro Israel, anti-other middle eastern nation actions than information generally flowing around shows.

          He very well be a name we need not forget

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          Because what you quoted is an opinion based on an action not being taken. Also the vote was already called for but has not yet taken place. Where as there was an action of subterfuge stated here “Multiple sources have told her that “a top Democratic HFAC staffer … deliberately inflated projections of opposition to the bipartisan measure – warning of 20 to 40 Democratic defections” in a bid to indicate the resolution would fail overwhelmingly.”

          Neither Jefferies or Schumer are HFAC staff members. Those members are designated regions of the world. One “Top” member presides over the Middle East and North Africa.

          I thought it was Sheila but I need to correct that, she apparently stepped down in November after an indictment, it is now held by Brad Sherman, a Representative in California.

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      Democratic leadership is in the pocket of Israel, so that’s not actually that surprising. They are not just complicit, they are actively enabling this illegal war. It’s the Iraq war all over again.

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      Perfect excuse for why they couldn’t do anything this time - it was simply too late! (Donate here to stop Trump and save democracy!)

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    which even George W. Bush did

    Yeah, that’s how a fucking ratchet works…

    When we alternate parties and one party doesn’t fix shit and the other isn’t held responsible, they’re just gonna keep doing what they’re doing. Which isn’t the same behavior, it’s as far across the line as they can geta away with. And every time it works it sets a new line.

    The obvious goal is the dissolution of Congress and that should have been clear to anyone whose paid 10 minutes attention at some point in the last 50 years.

    Authoritarians will always work towards a dictatorship, it doesn’t matter how many different groups pictures themselves in power, they all work towards the consolidation of power which makes it easy for every authortarian group regardless of alignment.

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      Thiel, musk and yarvin have been very clear that this is their goal but our governments keep giving them more of our money and power

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        That’s been the goal longer than they’ve been alive…

        MAGA just inherited the “progress” towards dictatorship that started before the Business Plot in the 1930s and ended when he beat Jeb! in 2015.

        The accelerationissm is due to neoliberals giving up the fight on our behalf for a couple decades.