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      14 hours ago

      Because that’s murder, and contrary to a health insurance company denying claims, Sam Altman just sucks, but hasn’t killed anyone (yet) (that we know of).

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          7 hours ago

          Is the developer also culpable? How about the data scientist? How about the data engineer? How about the BI Analyst? And the janitor?

          How about the manufacturer of the knife / pill / gas they used to kill themselves?

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            As a developer: yes to the developer and data scientist and data engineer. Scientists and engineers should be responsible for their work.

            The BI analyst: maybe, if they’re responsible for collecting data that ignores the impact of the service on teens. If they’re doing sales-comparisons between Anthropic and OpenAI… eh, I donno.

            The janitor: probably not since I don’t feel like the deaths are widely publicized and they probably work for a contracting company that handles the building.

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            In most cases suicide isn’t anyone’s fault. People like to find someone to blame, and I get that, but people who are even remotely close to doing that, were always going to find a way and a justification.

            No AI is going to convince me to kill myself if I didn’t already want to. Equally the inverse must also be true.

            That’s not to say that the companies are completely off the hook, it’s utterly ridiculous that these conversations weren’t flagged and sent to a human, but I think it’s daft to suggest that these people would necessarily still be alive had the AI not existed.

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              I completely agree. Not off the hook. There should be better guardrails (like recipes for bombs and other dangerous things) but from there to accuse the CEO of murder there’s quite a stretch.

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            If you manufacture a knife that convinces children to kill themselves, yeah, you’re culpable. Everyone else can be charged according to their level of culpability, but any time a company is found liable for killing someone the CEO should be sentenced for their murder. Maybe that would incentivize CEOs to stop getting people killed.

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        I mean creating a product that exacerbates psychosis to the point that people kill themselves I would say meets that standard.

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        Sam Altman is an enemy of humanity and it would self defense to kill him.

        I’m not gonna do it because that’s a hassle, but if someone did I wouldn’t condemn them.

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          So we just advocate for the murder of anyone we disagree with? The CEO, my boss, the neighbor with the loud dog, that guy who cuts us in traffic…

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            So, to you, a man hoarding wealth on an unimaginable scale and is actively engaging in the ruination of the world and humanity is just a annoying thing like a an aggressive driver or yapping dog?

            And that harming this techno-Hitler for what he’s doing would be the moral equivalent of murdering a normal person for making you angry?

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        Exhausting energy, fresh water, and giving an excuse to corporations to strip their job, the mean of living, from employees surely isn’t murdering.

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          Exactly: it isn’t murdering. Even if all assumptions above were true, it isn’t murdering.