“Bite the pillow, I’m going in dry.”
yes ☺️
“I sell propane and propane accessories”
Here’s my panties, tell me more
“You want to taste the meat, not the heat”
Fucking right I do
For those of you who don’t know, “I love you 3,000” is a quote from Avengers: Endgame. It’s particularly adorable because it’s said by a little girl, and three thousand is probably the largest number she can imagine.
Thank you for providing additional context. I didn’t know that one. But why did she say a number at all?
Is it something to do with “I love you 4ever” “I love you 5ever”?
It’s one upping.
I love you
I love you two
I love you three thousand (that number’s too big, can’t beat that one)
Why? Just a little kid being a kid.
She had said something like “I love you two hundred” to her mom, and her dad was joking with mom about it.
Arachno communism then
Best I can do is Anarcho-Usrsus maritimus…
Edit: wrong one
Please no spiders!
Come my little ones, put this traitor in gulag
“Heat from fire, fire from heat.”
I will never understand how people casually throw around communist talking points like these were not the talking points of some of the worst, most oppressive regimes ever. And the same people then are very vocally outraged when they hear fascist slogens (rightly so, but why is communist shit cool?).
Every socialist state that has ever existed has been, contextually, far better than what came before it, and in instances where socialism dissolved, better than what replaced it, for the working classes. Communism is becoming more popular as time goes on, because capitalism continues to decay and make people more and more hopeless:
When the working classes see no future for themselves in capitalism, why wouldn’t people want to implement a system where people, rather than capital, are in control?
How many communist countries are currently bombing the shit out of other countries today?
The russia?
Russia has not been socialist since the early 1990s.
I forget what the fallacy is called, but basically just because thing X is associated with Y and Y is bad doesn’t make X bad. If a communist leader killed people, it doesn’t necessarily mean communism is the reason he killed them.
In the same vain saying fascism is bad “because Hitler was a fascist” would also be a logical fallacy. Hitler also drank water but that doesn’t mean water is bad.
That’s not a very good example, because good and bad people drink water, pretty much everyone does. Here is a list of communist states:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_socialist_states_(communism)
I’d say that all of these sucked to live in. There are definitely states that treat their citizens better than these. If something always leads to death and suffering, maybe we can conclude that it’s a bad idea. Communists are not “associated with“ communism, they are communism.
As I said elsewhere:
Every socialist state that has ever existed has been, contextually, far better than what came before it, and in instances where socialism dissolved, better than what replaced it, for the working classes.
This is true for all of these. What’s also important is analyzing context, life expectancy doubled in both Russia and China thanks to the lives saved by socialism. Cuba has, in many years, a higher life expectancy than the US Empire. On the whole, there may be states where quality of life is higher for the working classes, but these are exclusively imperialist states that subsidize their safety nets with the spoils of plundering the global south, and is why these same countries are surging to the far-right as imperialism is decaying.
Edit: replied to the wrong comment lmao
I’d say that all of these sucked to live in
And you’d be wrong to say so. Polls in most post-communist states (except some exceptionally right wing nationalist regimes such as the Baltics or Poland) clearly tell us that most people preferred living under socialism.
When talking about the effects of socialism, we need to compare with what came before or after. And what came after was horrifying:
Lmao @ the reply to me, obliterated me
Communist DESTROYED by FACTS and @
Ahem. I wonder if non-communist states are any different, or it’s just that birth rates dipped before/during a World War, and they were all climbing back up until ~the '80s?
Would be an interesting thing to sed. My graphs are Wikipedia screenshots from the “Demographics of X” for each country mentioned. Would you post some from, say, Spain, France, Germany, Italy, US…?
Non-socialist states did not have that same severe drop right as socialism was dissolved.
You would do well to read about this ideology you speak of. Those “oppressive” regimes you talk about have brought such brutal repression as tripling life expectancy, raising literacy to 100%, universal healthcare and free education to the highest level, guaranteed jobs and the abolition of homelessness, guaranteed retirement pensions, working rights, and fight against colonialism (including saving Europe from Nazism).
Communist shit is cool because communist ideology is literally the source of all material progress in society, from the 40h working week to the welfare state. Fascism represents the polar opposite, which is the exact reasons why the first thing fascists do is to murder communists (ask Rosa Luxembourg about that).
Not the original commenter, but you seem to know a bit about communism (I’m currently looking into it)
Would you be up for a discussion on communism?
Absolutely! I wouldn’t say I’m super knowledgeable but I’ve had my reading on the theory and history of communism, much more than the average person at least, though not as much as comrades like @Cowbee@lemmy.ml
Anything you wanna discuss in particular?
How can you equate “seize means of production” and “class warfare” (things in OP) with 40 hour work week (not in OP)? Are Stalin’s and Maos bloody dictatorships that terrorized, tortured and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people, examples of progress of society? I can list a bunch of countries that are relatively free, and have high rates of literacy and strong worker protections, that are not communist (pretty much any developed democracy since the late 20th century). There is literally no communist country where people are acceptably free and don’t or didn’t want to get out to flee to one of the not communist countries. I hate the “its such a nice ideology just every single fucking time its followers came to power they had to torture and murder their fellow citizens to stay there”. You know, “seize means of production” in practice means that the government, or people who have friends in the government, go and take away other peoples shit: farmers, small businesses, house, a pig, anything they want, and all they need to do is call the victim a bourgeois or capitalist. This is how it worked in practice in every socialist/communist country that ever existed, lmk if you have a good counter example. And guess what: people get hurt in the process, lives are ruined.
Class warfare. Who the fuck wants to live in a society where everyone is a worker? Economically, a worker means someone who doesn’t own anything other than their future ability to work and earn wages. Every society that looks remotely liveable has a strong middle class: people own real estate, business, investments. These would all be crimes in communism. And now you can explain me that no, that’s not what’s so fucking cool about communism, I still get to keep my house and retirement fund, just have to work less and get more free stuff from the government because the only reason I wasn’t getting those things previously is that they didn’t realize how cool communism is. btw I don’t want to read a bit about the ideology, I was born in a communist country and have a pretty good idea what it was like for people living in that system. Edit: removed an offensive statement.tortured and murdered millions, hundreds of millions of people
You are making up the numbers, proving your ignorance.
I can list a bunch of countries that are relatively free, and have high rates of literacy and strong worker protections, that are not communist (pretty much any developed democracy since the late 20th century)
And you’re going to ignore the hundreds of millions of people enslaved and murdered by western capitalist colonial regimes, because you dont apply the same standards to socialism that you do to capitalism
There is literally no communist country where people are acceptably free and don’t or didn’t want to get out to flee
Bullshit. The Soviet referendum in 1991 proves otherwise, the vast majority of people in socialism wanted to stay in socialism.
I’ll stop reading because you’re just repeating western anticommunist propaganda and you haven’t made 1% of an effort to actually get informed on the topic. Suffice it to say that if ir weren’t for socialism in Europe, the Nazis would have won.
Edit: I see that you were born in a post-Soviet country. You can thank communism for your country to exist as a country and not as a colonized Nazi settlement with you and your family murdered or enslaved :)
I think you got it the wrong way round.
"Seizing the means of production ", means that every worker is now also an owner and investors into the company he works at. If you like owning and investing, that should sound cool to you.
Democracy should be everywhere in our lives, not only once every 4 years, that’s why democracy at the workplace is important.
The workers wouldn’t get “free stuff from the state” they would get to decide what to do with the surplus value the created with their work. Do we have a bigger payout? Do we invest in more production, more research? All these decisions would be held democratically by the workers AND managers.
Btw did you know, that you are in a class war wether you want it or not? There is one class waging war on you, one class that has class solidarity, and that is the Epstein class, the billionaire class. They steal the value you create any chance that they get. And what do they do with it? Invest it into hospitals? No. In the best case scenario they hoard it. In the worst case scenario they use it to rape and kill.
