They might think that they are upholding open source secure communication but what they are really achieving with it is fortifying the US big tech duopoly. There are other aims than theirs, of maximum security, in the EU we are facing the real and very relevant issue of digital sovereignty, which is separate from the ambition for getting hardened mobile systems. Sure, possibly legislation would be preferable to regulate and open up what Google’s Play Integrity API is doing, but as long as that legislation does not exist, creating alternative systems is crucial.
I can’t shake the feeling that this isn’t really about the UA but the private feud of Graphene OS developers with pretty much every single other alternative OS or degoogled android. Yes, they are all less secure than Graphene OS, primarily because Graphene OS relies on huge man power effort by Google to keep the firmware at the cutting edge with swift security updates. That is all good and fine, for their cause but it is not the only legitimate cause out there.
I can’t shake the feeling that this isn’t really about the UA but the private feud of Graphene OS developers
Its like their comms guy is a spoiled 12 year old who’s pissed they didn’t get invited to the party. I say that as a big fan and daily user of GOS.
I get that’s common in tech, but if you’re going to neg on your competitors at least offer a solid alternative. Like attestation or not it satisfies a need a lot of orgs and developers have. Its not going away any time soon.
They do offer their own attestation system, and some banks use it.
“Recently, there were many issues with the X app for GrapheneOS users, and they allege that the new rules are the cause.”
I understand the greater issue at hand here, but why are people using GrapheneOS as a phone OS, but are STILL using X? And why is GrapheneOS using X?
Because people should use whatever they want. If there a piece of software that’s available for the OS you should expect it to work without issues.
why is GrapheneOS using X?
If you’re trying to convert new people to your religion, you have to leave the church.
That’s what the priest told me when I saw him going into the brothel. Doing God’s work
Because you gotta go to where the people are else they won’t hear the message.
That argument perhaps held when it was still called Twitter, it’s now mostly bots
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Wouldn’t the very same argument apply here for the attestation?
GOS’s argument over the attestation is that it’s essentially the same as Google’s system. It approves the devices themselves regardless of their security. An approved device isn’t more secure in any way just because it’s on the list. It’s just a way of arbitrarily excluding any OS that they don’t like while still allowing devices that are obsolete or behind on security updates.
why are people using GrapheneOS as a phone OS, but are STILL using X?
Because your coworkers and your inlaws are still using it. And you phone company only posts their updates on xitter these days. It’s the same reasons why your still using whatsapp.
I personally don’t agree with these reasons, but they’re valid.
Nothing would make me happier than not having to use WhatsApp. Instead, I had to bend over backwards to get WhatsApp on a separate device entirely after they flagged and banned my account (multiple times over the course of a month) for random reasons (hackers trying to hack my account for 6 months straight is my guess as to why I got flagged) and wouldn’t let me log back in with my GrapheneOS phone, and if I ever forget to check that other phone for more than 2 weeks, I get logged out of all my companion devices and lose all my stickers and some recent chat history.
I floated the idea to my contacts of possibly not being able to come back to WhatsApp, they all essentially said I should just buy a new phone (have had my pixel for like a year) and get a new phone number (have had my number for 20 years). My own family scoffed at the idea of using something other than WhatsApp at all to talk to me.
So yeah. Fuck WhatsApp, absolutely fuuuuuuuck Meta, but we’re all literally doing the best we can given the situation we’re in.
Let’s agree to disagree. My family knows I love them, and they know I’m fucking paranoid. So their options were limited, either insta Signal, or just call me on the phone (jmp.chat number via Cheogram), I got off of the WhatsApp wagon and, while some of them resisted at first, they started to feel left out because they were not part of the signal family group. So, they all still use WhatsApp and they all use Signal now. Same with my friends. Every single one of my oldest friends didn’t think about it twice and just installed signal (on ay easier than my family, as expected), and those that didn’t happen to be all the acquaintances, not one of them was ever considered a friend by me. And my mental health is so much better because of this.
Just use the link to the Mastodon post. That site is junk.
