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    KadNap is a sophisticated peer-to-peer design based on Kademlia, a network structure that uses distributed hash tables to conceal the IP addresses of command-and-control servers

    How I would love to have enough Networking knowledge to be able to dismantle this system.

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      I’m a network engineer and I’m not entirely sure what’s going on. The ip addresses would be visible at some point or it wouldn’t work. I assume they’ve done the simple thing and ran a packet capture but a good chance it’s running through VPN so who knows

  • Onno (VK6FLAB)@lemmy.radio
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    14,000 sounds like a big number, until you realise that there’s many millions of routers. Asus is not known for backbone routing, so while this might be happening, you have to ask yourself, is this the biggest threat across the internet, or is this article intended to serve another interest?

    • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 🇮 @pawb.social
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      Well the article says the botnet is infecting 14,000 routers and other devices a day. Not that there are only 14k infected routers in the world.

      The number of infected routers averages about 14,000 per day, up from 10,000 last August, when Black Lotus discovered the botnet.

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        That’s a misreading of what it means. The botnet averages 14,000 routers + IoT devices a day, not new devices per day. Every day, devices cycle in and out of these botnets, so their count is always in flux.

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        Are you sure? Those seem like the only two options to me. Clearly the purpose of the article is to convince people to feed their children to the rich.

        Seriously, I’ve seen an increase in these weirdly extremist comments recently. One would have to wonder if they are the ones serving another’s interests.

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            Maybe the interests we serve are the friends we made serving another’s interests along the way…to serve interests? Or something like that

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          I don’t think anything Onno said is “extremist”, I just think it’s so vague that what they think might be happening is indecipherable. Makes it more likely to be rage/engagement bait, imo.

          But it’s not extreme to think that perhaps, given the current anti-anonymity push among governments worldwide, and the fact this uses DHTs and P2P routing, governments might love to tarnish those things in peoples’ minds in order to more readily accept banning of bittorrent, onion routing, TOR, etc, which can help bypass a lot of the dangerous government net restrictions and surveillance being put in place.

          Do you think that government intrusion into media, or the existence of online influence campaigns, are “extremist” conspiracies rather than proven realities?

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            By extremist, I was referring to the absurdity of the statement. Either it’s the end of the world, or the article authors are conspirators. Surely it can’t be something simple that isn’t on one end of a spectrum. This is what leads to radicalization.

            Do you think that government intrusion into media, or the existence of online influence campaigns, are “extremist” conspiracies rather than proven realities?

            They are both. An extremism can be real. A conspiracy can be proven true, and in your example it is.

            There is no evidence, nor reason to believe, the authors of the article in question are conspirators. There is no reason to believe the contents of the article are intended to be anything more than informational, even if with the inherent bias all authors posess. To perceive it as such would be a sign of extreme radicalization or, as you put it, an “online influence campaign” which would be conveniently set before a midterm election in the US.

            To be clear, I’m not suggesting the commenter actually is part of some campaign. I wouldn’t know. I do believe its contents are extreme though.

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              So to be clear, asking whether an article has ulterior motives qualifies as an “extremist” question, in your eyes?

              Because that seems a pretty extreme limitation on acceptable critical and contextual interrogation of news, to me. You should always be asking that question, in a world where 90% of news orgs are owned by people with heavy political connections and influence.

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                The suggestion that the authors of an article have ulterior motives is an extreme position to take, yes.

                At no point did I ever say that it’s a bad thing to hold that position, nor did I say it’s an invalid position, nor did I say it’s an incorrect position*. But in the society we live in, that position is pretty extreme

                *Edit: as a general claim, and obviously only for trustworthy sources. For this particular article, it is a ridiculous position to take though.

                Edit 2: I’m really confused what the point of this is. Are you defending that this article might reasonably be published with ulterior motives? Are you arguing over the semantics of the word “extreme”? Are you defending that the original comment reads like a sane interpretation of the article, even if flawed?

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                  But in the society we live in, that position is pretty extreme.

                  By what metric? And “Extreme” and “Extremist” are two different words, with different meanings and connotations.

                  Extreme simply means the far end of a spectrum. Extremist means

                  having or involving beliefs that most people think are unreasonable and unacceptable

                  (and that’s even avoiding the legal definitions that exist in e.g. the UK that specifically tie “extremist” to violence)

                  At no point did I ever say that it’s a bad thing to hold that position

                  Without offering any metric by which to assert that, you most certainly did convey the commonly understood negative connotation by calling it extremist.

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      You have to ask yourself, is this comment intended to serve another interest?