facebook knowing my personal information against my will goes against my right to privacy. there are also the ethics of recording people in secret instead of making it very obvious. no, a blinking red dot does not count, and it can also be covered with a special purpose-made made black sticker.
now that i think about it, I’m just not comfortable being filmed without consent by strangers at all, in any way, regardless of where the images end up.
i don’t think people should get used to it either. it’s incredibly creepy, even if no law is broken where you live.
and yes, i do understand that in many places just being in public reduces your right to privacy so that you’re legally allowed to be photographed as long as you’re not the focus. i don’t care. still creepy.
I’m sure you’re aware while you traverse in public you are on camera pretty much the entire time, right? There are cameras everywhere always filming, some you know about and can clearly see, some you will never know about and never see. Your face is in a database whether you consent or not.
The part about Facebook knowing your information without your consent? Do you have an account with them?
The proliferation of cameras in public is not a good thing. I am yet to see data showing it reduces criminality (supposed to be the intent), meanwhile it’s a massive surveillance system.
And the fact that a given situation is bad is hardly a good argument to promote making it worse.
Meta collects data on everyone: from contact info in cellphone through their apps, uploaded photos, videos etc.
If you don’t have an account nor consent to anything, they will just not show the data, but will still build the profile combining different sources and feed it to its algorithms.
Facebook has a profile on everyone. Accounts or not. They are just like every other data broker. All they want is access to more data and more data.
All that medical data is the holy grail… Anyone who thinks medical data will remain private is naive. All it takes is very deep pockets and lawmakers who want contributions to change the laws.
I agree it can be creepy. But where I live, and in the US, as well as many other countries, you have no expectation of privacy in public. That’s why it’s called public. It might feel right to want to impose some restrictions on public photography, but since there’s absolutely no way to fairly draw a line, it’s better to not impose limits at all.
there’s absolutely a way to draw a line. no smart glasses. even if there wasn’t, no regulation for the sake of regulators being too dumb is the worst take possible.
No smart glasses. Alright, then I would wear hidden camera’s in the buttons of my shirt. The point I’m trying to make here, is that this is not a technological debate. It’s about freedoms: having your freedoms means having to respect others’ as well.
What fact about yourself are you least willing to share with strangers?
If there is no way to tell if that is a reasonable question for me to ask, then by what metric do you decide whether or not to answer it? Does that metric act as a stand-in for “reasonableness” to you, and if so then how do you square it with your earlier insistence that drawing such a line is impossible? If not, why?
Americans are already getting brutalized and robbed for using recording equipment in public. To be fair, the intersection of protesters and glasses-camera people is very small.
facebook knowing my personal information against my will goes against my right to privacy. there are also the ethics of recording people in secret instead of making it very obvious. no, a blinking red dot does not count, and it can also be covered with a special purpose-made made black sticker.
now that i think about it, I’m just not comfortable being filmed without consent by strangers at all, in any way, regardless of where the images end up.
i don’t think people should get used to it either. it’s incredibly creepy, even if no law is broken where you live.
and yes, i do understand that in many places just being in public reduces your right to privacy so that you’re legally allowed to be photographed as long as you’re not the focus. i don’t care. still creepy.
If recording in public wasn’t legal, then cops could legally arrest you for filming them brutalizing people for no reason.
I’m sure you’re aware while you traverse in public you are on camera pretty much the entire time, right? There are cameras everywhere always filming, some you know about and can clearly see, some you will never know about and never see. Your face is in a database whether you consent or not.
The part about Facebook knowing your information without your consent? Do you have an account with them?
i know, doesn’t change my stance. i don’t have a facebook account, at most a shadow profile because others may talk about me
The proliferation of cameras in public is not a good thing. I am yet to see data showing it reduces criminality (supposed to be the intent), meanwhile it’s a massive surveillance system.
And the fact that a given situation is bad is hardly a good argument to promote making it worse.
Meta collects data on everyone: from contact info in cellphone through their apps, uploaded photos, videos etc. If you don’t have an account nor consent to anything, they will just not show the data, but will still build the profile combining different sources and feed it to its algorithms.
It has been a well known practice for many years.
Facebook has a profile on everyone. Accounts or not. They are just like every other data broker. All they want is access to more data and more data.
All that medical data is the holy grail… Anyone who thinks medical data will remain private is naive. All it takes is very deep pockets and lawmakers who want contributions to change the laws.
I agree it can be creepy. But where I live, and in the US, as well as many other countries, you have no expectation of privacy in public. That’s why it’s called public. It might feel right to want to impose some restrictions on public photography, but since there’s absolutely no way to fairly draw a line, it’s better to not impose limits at all.
there’s absolutely a way to draw a line. no smart glasses. even if there wasn’t, no regulation for the sake of regulators being too dumb is the worst take possible.
No smart glasses. Alright, then I would wear hidden camera’s in the buttons of my shirt. The point I’m trying to make here, is that this is not a technological debate. It’s about freedoms: having your freedoms means having to respect others’ as well.
Like respecting others’ freedom to a reasonable degree of privacy.
To draw a line between what is and isn’t reasonable is impossible.
What fact about yourself are you least willing to share with strangers?
If there is no way to tell if that is a reasonable question for me to ask, then by what metric do you decide whether or not to answer it? Does that metric act as a stand-in for “reasonableness” to you, and if so then how do you square it with your earlier insistence that drawing such a line is impossible? If not, why?
why the need for hidden recording equipment anyway? do you wanna spy on women that badly?
Americans are already getting brutalized and robbed for using recording equipment in public. To be fair, the intersection of protesters and glasses-camera people is very small.
You’re projecting. I only want to spy on men.