• MinnesotaGoddam@lemmy.world
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    dude, last time i went to the thai place, this was the instruction i gave them.

    they gave me white grandma mild. i’m never going back. i eat ghost peppers raw.

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      ive been buying powdered ghost pepper instead of expensive hot sauce. saving tons of money

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    My father used to be all macho and say this kind of shit when we’d visit Mexican restaurants as a kid. Once place decided to teach him a lesson and honestly everyone involved thought it was hilarious including my father. And yes, they delivered on making him regret it.

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      i’m “macho” and say all this shit but like, for good reason. i get a tummyache if i don’t have like 20,000 capsaicans a day

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        man im so jelly. anytime i get more adventurous than salt and maybe a teeny tiny bit of pepper my insides turn to lava and I spend at least a couple hours expelling hot fire from my anus afterwards. :(

        I am the physical embodiment of vanilla, at least culinarily speaking lmao

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        Serious question. How are your shits? Every time I start to build my tolerance, I hit a point where I’m paying for it on the back end and I have to scale back.

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      I don’t put it on my breakfast cereal, but I do use smoked ground up scorpion pepper as a seasoning to put on pretty much anything that isn’t supposed to taste sweet. I know a guy, so I buy it by the mason jar.

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        Have you ever heard of “runners high”? You get the same thing about 10 minutes after eating really spicy food

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        so like in austin texas there used to be (and probably still is, just i don’t live there anymore) this group called the Nuclear Taco Club. we’d meet once a month and eat ghost pepper tacos. there was a lot of sour crema and milk there.

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        I used to live in West Africa, where everything is spicy. Grilled scotch bonnet peppers are a garnish in restaurants. It’s sink or swim. Thai restaurants make their “mild” Thai mild, swimming in peppers.

        At some point you cross a point of tolerance where the lovely flavors of hot peppers open up to you. Orange bonnets and habaneros are wonderfully delicious. Zingy with a fruity chili flavor that is unlike other milder peppers. 10/10 my favorite. But only something one can taste once you learn to tolerate capsicum exposure.

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        Worse, I’ve noticed that a lot of the hotter stuff doesn’t even have a good flavor.

        For regular jarred Mexican salsa, I like Herndez. The hot isn’t very hot and it would be completely fine for me with chips or whatever, but the flavor of the medium is so much better. I don’t really get it.

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          oh totally. i think they figure people are too burned so they can’t taste anything and just load up on arbols and vinegar. we got a new carneceria last year and they have the best deli salsas so we’ve just been eating those lately

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            the la victoria green hot was the best, but i don’t know what happened to it. haven’t been able to find it since covid.

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        I do lots of very spicy food. I think my tongue has literally been damaged over time by all the heat, so stuff I don’t register as being even the slightest bit spicy are unbearably hot to others and I have to really ratchet it up to taste anything.

        But what I’ve found at lots of Asian restaurants is that the staff assumes my pale, white ass can’t take real heat. I ask for “5-peppers” hot and they’re like “We’ll start you with a 2.” It’s annoying. I’ve never been served food that’s “too hot” in a restaurant, so I kinda understand these exaggerated descriptions people give on food orders.

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          I once had to leave a negative review at the Thai place I go for lunch pretty regularly, because they got a new hostess and she kept trying to save me from my hubris multiple weeks in a row.

          The owners finally had a conversation with her and now I get my Pad Thai at the appropriate spice level. I edited the review to 5 stars afterwords.

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          On the other hand you have the bozos that order extra extra spicy and then whine that they can’t eat it. That’s likely something everyone who works in an Asian restaurant has experienced multiple times.

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            Reminds me of a time me and a coworker stopped for Indian food at a place neither had been before and he said he wanted a number 7. He’s Korean so the server didn’t blink , I said 1 please.

            When the server walked away I was like man what the hell are you doing a fucking 7 !?, he said I like spicy food , I said ok sorry I mentioned it.

            He needed a towel to dry his face , his nose had sweat beads dripping off it. He ate the whole dish , said it was way too hot. And he should have ordered a 2 or 3.

            I don’t play around in those places, store baught hot sauce is as far as I go and I like it just fine , got nothing to prove. I’ve tried sauces so hot my ears were ringing and I don’t like that jazz

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            I have a good Sichuan place near me. Sichuan heat can sneak up on you, so people who pull this are liable to be leaving in an ambulance. Makes it difficult for me to get the authentic experience.

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          When I was in the US with another Brit buddy we went out for a curry (Gaylord Chicago IIRC) and each ordered a vindaloo. The head waiter was dispatched to our table to warn us this might be too spicy. When we told him we were British he nodded, smiled, and said “I understand, I’ll let the kitchen know.”

          It was still a bit on the mild side for a BIR vindaloo.

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            The fact is that even with just a bit of intentional spice “training” you can get your tolerance into the million scoville range, far beyond what your average Indian place can do to their vindaloo unless they are specializing in spicy food and have ghost peppers available.

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              You can lose that training too, ask me how i know. I had a phase of about 2 years where everything had to be spicy, in the end my sister couldn’t eat from my plate anymore. Somehow I stopped eating spicy food - after a few months without training i made the mistake of cooking something spicy without reducing the intensity. Well, then i knew how my sister felt.

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          There’s a Mexican restaurant by me where they keep the good hot sauce in the back.

          You can ask for it.

          You can purchase it.

          They do not keep it on the table.

          The guy will however come up to you all sketchy like and ask if you like spicy, then bring you a ramekin for your food and let you know you can take a jar home.

          Lots of folks take the bait then struggle in their booth. Dinner and entertainment.

          10/10

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          They do that to me nearly all the time too, especially with to go orders. When eating in person, I just always ask them to bring the spice tray out when ordering my food, that seems to sometimes get the point across.

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          You need to do a Ron Swanson-style “I said I want all of the chilis you have” routine.

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    Pad Thai is not a traditionally spicy dish, though. It’s a mild street food, so you have to smother it in toppers to get it hot. You’re way better off ordering a spicy curry and asking for a side of chili oil to raise the heat.

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      To some people, chili oil may as well be ketchup. Thai food uses birds eye chili peppers for heat. Hotter than jalapenos by a lot and a bit hotter than serrano peppers, but generally about half as hot as a habanero and much less hot than scorpion, ghost, reapers, and a few other variants. I can eat all the bird peppers I want on my food. For real heat I add hotter stuff.

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      Drunken noodles all the way. I was incredibly disappointed trying a new thai place when the drunken noodles were weaker than your average pad thai. I mean I know I’m white but if you’re gonna make it that weak at least ask me a spice level so I can say medium or something.

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        Ask them for a spice tray. Most Thai places will have chili oil, dried peppers, pickled Thai chiles, picked jalapeños, homemade sriracha paste, curry powder, etc. you can use as condiments.

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    Thai food in Thailand is nowhere near as spicy as “Thai Spicy” or even “Hot” Thai food in the states, in my experience. Some places I went it approaches or slightly exceeds “Hot”, but on the whole I think the spiciness of Thai food is way overblown.

    In my experience the spiciness levels are 1, 2, and 3 meaning 1 - 3 dried or fresh birdseye (or similar) red chilis. It’s pretty standardized and 3 is a hot but still pleasant level of spiciness. Thai people aren’t competing to see who can light their asshole on fire, they just want good food.

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      Yeah I’m convinced that Spicelords are just sad literally tasteless people who can’t enjoy food on a culinary level as much as they can on a competitive level. Anyone who likes it so spicy that you’re mostly tasting spice, I’m not impressed bro. I can eat like that too. I just choose not to because I have actual taste. Don’t say this “ohhh but I’m used to it so I taste the flavor too” no you don’t, you taste a sad mangled version of the flavor through the spice. How many professional taste testers or culinary geniuses or famous chefs are scarfing down 5000 billion Scoville Ancient Ghost of The Demon King Peppers? Oh right, none of them. Fuck

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        it’s not that, it’s that i get a tummyache if i don’t eat enough spicy food each day.

        opposite of all y’all who get tummyaches if you eat any spicy food i know i’m weird. they have literally tried to study it in a lab.

        i had some really fucky gastro stuff happen to me and my surgeon just happened to be plugged into research so i got to be a professional test subject

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        Sometimes I just want a murder hot soup or entree because it beats the other recreational poisons in terms of long term damage, but I still feel good after.

        I enjoy food, but I also like an occasional escape by capsaicin. If that’s ok with you, I mean.

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          Lol, I mean yeah I get you. Like I said, I can also eat super spicy food. And that’s not the sort of thing you find out by accident. There is a certain pleasure to it, maybe sinus clearing, or the sort of psychological sensation akin to a cold plunge from forcing yourself to endure something difficult. And I love the hottest variety of hot cheetos. And Thai food really does need some decent hest or its just not right. I think the true defining characteristic of a Spicelord isn’t enjoying super spicy food, but being pretentious and weird about it.

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        I mean it’s like getting a taste for bitter things - once you are used to it, the flavor is more than just “spice.” I have four different bottles of hot sauce over 1M scoville, and I can easily tell them apart by taste and smell. It opens up an entirely new realm of flavor profiles once you can tolerate the spice and taste what comes with it.

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          For sure, for sure. I don’t mean to disparage spice itself. I also judge people who refuse to have spicy food (unless it’s for medical reasons ofc), and the classic bland food fan who thinks black peppercorn is spicy. I guess I just pretty much am judging everyone aside from the Goldilocks zone people who appreciate and value spice but also don’t place it above everything else or turn it into something its not

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      The spicy things I enjoy are Sriacha, Doritos dynamite Limon, Taco Bell mild but just for the flavor it’s not really spicy at all. Some people would probably call me a bitch for not liking it super hot. I actually like Frank’s red hot because it reminds me of the shitty hot sauce from grade school and it gives me nostalgia.

      My biggest annoyance with spicy food is that I want the experience to stop when I finish eating. People say oh drink milk or whatever but that simply doesn’t work well.

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      I don’t travel, or do anything. No passport, never been on a plane. Thailand is the one place I want to go, and eat my way from one end to the other.

      Maybe sometime in the future when the US sucks less (hopefully). I’m too ashamed to be from here right now to travel abroad.

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        If that’s what’s holding you back, don’t worry. Thai people are very chill and kind on the whole. Also the economy is very dependent on tourism, so dealing with westerners is part of that. And, the US has not fucked Thailand over anywhere near as much as the surrounding countries (vietnam & cambodia, mostly, but even those folks are extremely gracious). People will appreciate you if you are kind, polite, and try to follow local customs.

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      I think something that complicates it is that spice tolerance increases as you eat more spicy things. Some people experience that 1 the same as others feel the 3 and vice versa.

      If Thailand is as used to tourists as other comments have said, then it wouldn’t surprise me if they do something similar to western restaurants with spice: over exagerate how spicy everything is so that tough guys can ask for something that will make them look tough without risking the staff needing to deal with some of them crying about it being too spicy (and maybe also feeling like they need to prove their toughness some other way).

      So it wouldn’t surprise me if the home cooking experience is more in line with what people would expect of Thai cuisine. And not because they want to blast their tastebuds and assholes, but because their tolerance is high from eating spicy food their whole lives and that’s how much they need to get to a “pleasantly hot” level.

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      That’s how I feel about spicy food in Texas. “Texas Spicy Chili” anywhere else in the US is going to be way hotter than what is generally found in Texas.

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    I’d like spicy better if the burn didn’t linger. Wasabi, I love. It blasts through you, burning away all mucous in your sinuses and then it’s gone. A little dry mouth, so you need a bite of ginger and then another blast of wasabi.

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      I’ve never liked wasabi, which is strange because I’ve loved hot sauce since I was a child. I’ve since figured out that what I actually like is vinegar and the fact that there’s peppers involved is just a pleasant bonus.

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      I don’t have much tolerance for capsaicin, but I’m all about the isothiocyanate (the pungent compound in wasabi/horseradish/Chinese mustard/etc., and yes I had to look it up for this comment).

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      You should try dona sauce. It’s just roasted jalapenos emulsified in oil, usually olive oil. Doesn’t leave as fast but the roasting and oil tempers the trailing heat quite a bit.

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      My mouth can handle whatever spice you give me, although honestly at a certain point the flavor is literally just spice, which is pretty boring.

      The other end is what moderates my spice intake.

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      I’ve noticed at the last two places I’ve gotten wasabi with my meal from that the wasabi is weak. I remember in the past, if I ate some wasabi directly, I’d feel the place it first hit my tongue for like 20 seconds after. The last two times, I didn’t detect any spice at all, even eating it directly.

      Hope this is just a local trend and you’re talking about weak spicy mayo or something.