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I thought I read that the change was already rolled back, or am I mistaken?
My date of birth is FU/CK/YOU
FU/CK/YOOU
YOU-FU-CK is the better format and this is not debatable.
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An init system does not need to know my personal details; it’s for starting programs in a specific order just fuck off with this shit. You don’t even have to capitulate to this stuff and these freaks are out here doing it preemptively like they expect a fucking pat on the head for being first in line to dive tongue first on to that boot.
Systemd isn’t an init system. Systemd-init is an init system and it is a part of the systemd suite.
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Whatever the fuck it is it doesn’t need to know how old I am to do its job.
It already has fields for personal information, though, and they’re every bit as sensitive as your birthdate. realName, emailAddress, location, and timezone are already in there. The important part is that they’re all optional, and you don’t have to fill them in at all, or can fill them in with fake data. The system still serves you, not some outside party.
But the timing of it does have a lot of people freaking out about it.
I now fear it will one day be required for services on the internet (as it is by a rescent law in Calafornia). I want to make that less uikely, and more difficult to implement.
Having a principle the majority do not have and refusing to participate means being another step further out of society.
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It doesn’t need to know your age. It just provides a way to take a note of your birth date, only if you want to. The system already has a place to write your name and home address. All are optional and practically nobody uses them.
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And it still doesn’t, the blank space does not need to be filled
It doesn’t know how old are you, it just remembers a date you tell it. You can give your birthday, but you can choose any other day
This is step 1.
Final step: Scan your passport to verify and populate the date of birth field.
tell me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected without telling me you have only a passing understanding of how modern linux is architected
Enlighten us then. Why would an operating system management tool need to know the age of its user?
What service should handle it instead?
NONE
Why is it need at all??
Because it’s going to be a legal requirement, with fines of $7000 per affected underage user, which will instantly bankrupt the US-based non-profit representing Debian, Arch and others, and kill off community-maintained Linux.
Do note: The legal requirement is NOT for age verification. Only for having a field where you as the admin can enter whatever the fuck you want.If you don’t agree with the law, good. Neither do I. But the devs aren’t the ones to apply pressure to, here.
They’re forced to do this to keep the lights on, and they’ve implemented it in a way that keeps you as the admin in full control.-
Literally no one forced them to do that yet. They just decided to get on their knees preemptively and start licking boots
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Open source software has maintainers all around the world. Why the fuck would the rest of the world care about this fucked up law coming from ONE state?
Again, no one is forced to do anything. And if I was a maintainer on FOSS where I would be forced to implement something like this, I would just stop contributing to that project.
Fuck everyone going along with this state surveillance bullshit.
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Why doesn’t Debian do it instead of systemd? Let the distros decide on the plan of action, this is clearly not something that systemd has to decide. The people maintaining systemd are leveraging the fact that their shite software runs on more than 95% of Linux machines. That is an abuse of power. What is weird too is compliance ahead of time. Compliance ahead of time makes sense with cars, but software can be updated immediately when necessary.
It is just a field. What it contains, if anything at all, is irrelevant.
This is step 1.
Final step: Scan your passport to verify and populate the date of birth field.
Slippery slope fallacy
Every step towards making people feel at ease giving personal information away, makes the next one easier.
Everyone should set it to 1970-01-01.
In other news there has been a massive uptick in Boomers converting to Linux…
Ive been born since 1900-01-01 for a long time now.
Most people are born on the same date their whole life.
The tech nerds should be setting theirs to 1970-01-01 at 00:00 UTC.
Why
That’s the Unix Epoch. The time and date in Linux and Unix is the number of seconds since then.
It is the beginning of cataclysm-simulation_67
That’s the default time set when the CMOS battery is dead and the RTC is reset.
Me too!
Although someone (steam maybe? I don’t remember) updated their system and won’t take it anymore. So now it’s 1930-01-01.
You should try it. It’s like I’m 30 years younger!
0001-01-01
I’m old.
Born just in time to not be able to be a nazi!
Yes, I know the Hitler Youth existed…but I don’t hold that against those (at the time) children. They were being conditioned to support a system they didn’t understand.
I figure anyone younger than 20 is too young to be blamed for all that crap. The brain stops developing at age 23. So I don’t expect an 8 year old to hold a very good grasp on international politics and wars. Especially in an age where an hour nightly AM radio broadcast, and a daily morning newspaper were your only source for news.
The brain stops developing at age 23.
No it doesn’t. The brain continues to develop and change throughout the lifetime of the organism.
happily updates its birthdate to 2018-01-01 you can’t blame me now. Take that, woke people.
The contents of the field will be protected from modification except by users with root privileges.
sudo my age to a thousand years then; no, thank you very very much
or just don’t set it
I’m a Debian guy so I’ll set mine to April 28, 1973.
1930-01-01, done. But this shouldn’t be a requirement to begin with either.
good thing it’s entirely optional then!
I meant wouldn’t be a requirement for the operating system to have built into it.
No thanks, not the distro I will be using.
Systemd isn’t a distro, it’s an init and bootstrapper that underlies several distros
they easily might have meant that the distro they will be using has declared they will not implement this
That was very, very likely what the parent comment meant. The correction was unnecessary.
If the hyperventilators could read that would be a very good point.
Look it’s mr. Fort Lauderdale again^
