Most scientists who study it literally agree that Jesus Christ was a real person who lived around the time and had a following. They just disagree on the divinity aspect. But they are totally fine with saying “yeah, this dude probably existed and preached”. Science has NO PROBLEM with religion, it just doesn’t blindly believe it. Noah’s flood is another example of “these stories were likely based on some actual events that occured”.
If giants were real, just like pygmies are real, we’d happily discuss them.
Just to point out that Noah’s Ark is lifted from a Sumerian(?) story that is linked to the epic of Gilgamesh. Also Meltwater pulse 1B probably left some cultural memories that got merged with it at some point.
Yeah that’s also what I’m referring to, a good amount of the story beats were taken from the Sumerian Flood Myth. Meltwater Pulse 1B was a major flooding event that raised the sea level quite a bit within about 80 years and is probably the basis of a lot of flood myths.
Or even just the floodplains of the Nile flooding. A persons concept of “The World” was much smaller back then. If everything you know is flooded, that might as well be the whole world from your perspective.
Oh most certainly, it’s a matter of perspective of the times. Most of my ancestry lived and died on two gods forsaken islands off the coast of Europe, I live on the otherside of an ocean and a continent they didn’t know about in a climate they only knew from myth. We can argue over what the origins were for millenia as people before us have and still come to no conclusion because those who wove said myths are gone with the only trace being said myths.
Depends what happens between now and then and what survives. We have pretty accurate documents from Rome and thusly a sober interpretation or at least as much as you can get. Meanwhile the viking age is as much legends as it is history, the difference between myth and legend is blurry but generally when spirits and gods get involved in a direct sense it’s myth with a few exceptions. King Arthur and Beowulf are myth, De Bruce and Davey Crocket are in the early stages of legend.
I mean moreso the transition from concrete facts to “well we think this might have happened/been how people felt/etc”. The destruction of digital information is a very real thing. Try finding any website from the 90’s for example. I think there’s a chance information retention, especially about “current events”, will get worse, not better.
Most scientists who study it literally agree that Jesus Christ was a real person who lived around the time and had a following. They just disagree on the divinity aspect. But they are totally fine with saying “yeah, this dude probably existed and preached”. Science has NO PROBLEM with religion, it just doesn’t blindly believe it. Noah’s flood is another example of “these stories were likely based on some actual events that occured”.
If giants were real, just like pygmies are real, we’d happily discuss them.
Just to point out that Noah’s Ark is lifted from a Sumerian(?) story that is linked to the epic of Gilgamesh. Also Meltwater pulse 1B probably left some cultural memories that got merged with it at some point.
I’m referring to “a great flood” which, yes, tho exaggerated, many scientists believe did occur and was the basis for such stories.
Yeah that’s also what I’m referring to, a good amount of the story beats were taken from the Sumerian Flood Myth. Meltwater Pulse 1B was a major flooding event that raised the sea level quite a bit within about 80 years and is probably the basis of a lot of flood myths.
Or even just the floodplains of the Nile flooding. A persons concept of “The World” was much smaller back then. If everything you know is flooded, that might as well be the whole world from your perspective.
Oh most certainly, it’s a matter of perspective of the times. Most of my ancestry lived and died on two gods forsaken islands off the coast of Europe, I live on the otherside of an ocean and a continent they didn’t know about in a climate they only knew from myth. We can argue over what the origins were for millenia as people before us have and still come to no conclusion because those who wove said myths are gone with the only trace being said myths.
Makes you wonder what parts of our current history will get garbled in 500 years and start becoming the stuff of myths.
Depends what happens between now and then and what survives. We have pretty accurate documents from Rome and thusly a sober interpretation or at least as much as you can get. Meanwhile the viking age is as much legends as it is history, the difference between myth and legend is blurry but generally when spirits and gods get involved in a direct sense it’s myth with a few exceptions. King Arthur and Beowulf are myth, De Bruce and Davey Crocket are in the early stages of legend.
I mean moreso the transition from concrete facts to “well we think this might have happened/been how people felt/etc”. The destruction of digital information is a very real thing. Try finding any website from the 90’s for example. I think there’s a chance information retention, especially about “current events”, will get worse, not better.