• Tolc@lemmy.world
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    2 days ago

    makes you wonder why french used guillotines when they couldve done just no kings protest

    • Dadd Volante@sh.itjust.works
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      2 days ago

      The French Revolution did not have a good ending. It ended with the first Nationalist Emperor in modern history: Napoleon.

      I’m begging y’all to actually read some books.

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        14 hours ago

        Apparently the creation of the First French Republic, which abolished feudalism and monarchy, created a declaration of human and civil rights that was foundational for a century of liberal democratic revolutions all across Europe and is still celebrated today as a national holiday, wasn’t a good ending because the forces of reaction managed to get back in power for a few years. Unbelievable…

        Maybe the first republic would have lasted longer if they dressed up in frog costumes?

      • I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world
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        The French Revolution did not have a good ending.

        I find this to be rather short sighted thinking. Yes, the immediate effect was the rise of Napoleon. But to this day, France has some of the most robust workers rights laws and policies. Their people are not afraid of protest and striking. Long term, I think the French Revolution was incredibly good as it made the upper class afraid and serves as a reminder that there are far more of us than there are them.

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          Then the Nazis took over and many French collaborated with them (as Stalin collaborated with Hitler 1939 to 1941).

          Churchill and FDR then help liberate France.

          IIUC, Charles de Gaulle then snubbed both and developed nukes.

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        LMAO. Books? How would I even share a good quote from a book??? Like just remember it and then tell it to someone like a caveman???

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        At least Napoléon got the trains to run on time!

        Also he reformed the justice and fiscal system in ways that were sorely needed. He did do a bit of wars on the side, but everyone needs a hobby.

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        It had long lasting effects tho

        No kings does nothing, its funny how they organize it on sunday so their work week doesnt get disturbed lmao

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        Ok but one instance is not a good sample size.

        I do understand that revolution allows authoritarians to swoop in and take control, but my only question is, HOW MUCH TIME WILL REFORMS TAKE? Because if it is more than 1 year, we don’t have the time. Sorry. It’s that simple. Thermodynamics is a real bitch sometimes and WE DONT HAVE TIME to be dicking around for the next 10 years while the people in power claim they are working on changing things.

        Edit: please everyone go read some climate science data and tell me we can afford a few more years of this shit.