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    3% of 320 million is like 9.6 million. I guess they needed another 1.6 million people before the world changes for them.

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        Yep. The idea that if the marches hit 3% things will suddenly get better is a fallacy though. The US is far too large and sparse for that 3% rule to work like some are hoping. Its a lot of people, and good on everyone for going out, but i think actual change requires a bit more.

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      I’ve been using 3.5% of 335,000,000 million, which is 11,725,000. Figure 12,000,000.

      This No Kings was about 8 million, which was bigger than last time. There are also millions of people at home that are committed to the end of MAGA, but won’t go to a protest.

      We hit that 3.5% of committed resistance long ago.

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        There are also millions of people at home that are committed to the end of MAGA, but won’t go to a protest.

        What are they doing, besides complaining about it?

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          What are they doing, besides complaining about it?

          What is a protest but a whole lot of people gathering to “complain about it?” Nothing actually gets done, nothing is decided, nothing changes. You just let the other side know how you feel. If all the Left has is No Kings, then we’ve already lost. No Kings is a DEMONSTRATION of our numbers, it is not a solution in itself. It’s only meant to scare them with our increasing strength.

          Non-protesters are home doing doing the exact same things that No Kings protesters are doing when they’re not at a quarterly No Kings protest. They are keeping up with what’s going on, speaking out every day, in every way possible, posting on line, engaging their family, friends, and co-workers in conversations, spreading the word, giving people alternate information from the Conservative Propaganda Machine, making people understand that they aren’t alone, contacting their elected representatives, etc.

          You’d better hope that there are a LOT more committed supporters staying in their homes, because if all the Dems had was No Kings protesters to vote for them, then the election would be 2% Dem, and 98% MAGA.

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            Is there any effort at the No Kings protests to encourage people to get armed and trained to protect their communities should the need arise?

            Militias and Firearms are enshrined in the constitution—it doesn’t need to be a right only thing.

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        I could be wrong but I think the 3.5% protest observations assumes but doesn’t count non-participatory support. So the 3.5% is meant as the number in the streets with some much higher percentage of ‘quiet’ support.

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          Valid. I’m sure they want that 3.5% in the streets so they can unequivocally claim a Tipping Point (although a Tipping Point is NEVER guaranteed, just possible). No Kings participants want to play down the non-patricipants as not being committed enough, but for many, it simply isn’t possible, due to age, physical limitations, distance, anxiety, etc.

          But that doesn’t mean they aren’t just as outraged, and just as committed, and those silent voices of outrage fuel the fire BETWEEN No Kings Rallies. And when the No Kings Rallies are happening, it’s important to acknowledge that the number is much, much higher, meaning those in the streets have an enormous block of silent power behind them. We need to make MAGA understand that as big as those growing crowds are, they are dwarfed by the angry Citizens at home. We need to make them very, very frightened of us.

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              Check out this dork. No use trying to explain anything to a virtuosically ignorant MAGA troll. Anyone who is still on board is just a corrupt, treasonous, racist, ignorant, incompetent, pedophile, completely locked into the concept of “Don’t bother me with facts, my mind is made up.”

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                Not to take anything away from your primary point, but I’d like a moment to appreciate the phrase

                virtuosically ignorant MAGA troll

                This is descriptive perfection.

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                  The guy deleted his comment, so I officially won. I find that not engaging their idiotic assertions, and just talking about their stupidity right in front of them is the best response. I just talk to the audience ABOUT them.

                  I’ve had them keep responding with increasing anger, and I never address them, I just keep making fun of them to the general audience. One guy deleted his entire account.

                  Bullying MAGA is the only acceptable form of bullying. Pedophile Traitors don’t deserve respect.

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                    In the rare moment I mock a person directly, I usually just do it to their faces; it literally never occurred to me to do the near-miss. Good plan – and I agree, traitors don’t deserve respect.