I think the pirate parties idea to go through real basic democracy, so society can form the rules it lives in, and can abolish parties, while remaining representative I give my vote, is still the best road to real utopian anarchy.
I was an anarchist, before being part of the pirate party - but I’ve left quite some time ago, because party politics just make me sick
To be clear, I left long before I was an anarchist. I joined when the party was quite new and I had hopes that this will be a parliamentary party, kind of the Green Party of my generation. But when they got into regional parliaments (including in the capital) and nothing happened, I was disillusioned. It took less than a legislative period for them to loose momentum and don’t make it to any parliament anymore, at least in the country I live in. I never believed in parties outside of parliament. In the past, I felt that voting only works when you vote for a party in parliament, now I still vote but think change comes through pressure from the street, including direct action and mutual aid.
This together with the understanding of direct democracy that didn’t really work that way. I spare you the anecdote of a guy who used this phrase to malign a project that was open for everyone but he wasn’t engaged enough to participate so he called it intransparent.
Also I left town and didn’t watch out for the new local chapter.
It was a clusterfuck of too many voices, without fulfilling their own real goal of self resolving, when we don’t need parties anymore, but have real direct basic democracy
As said, I still think, this is the way to go at the moment, but I’m just so fed up with party politics - as it seems you’re as well…
Our experiences don’t differ that much actually
I’ve been shortly part of a EU lobby org to fight for net freedom - and I still support them, as I see more success there, than in the national clown show…
Before I was an anarchist, I was in the Pirate Party, so, yeah
I think the pirate parties idea to go through real basic democracy, so society can form the rules it lives in, and can abolish parties, while remaining representative I give my vote, is still the best road to real utopian anarchy.
I was an anarchist, before being part of the pirate party - but I’ve left quite some time ago, because party politics just make me sick
To be clear, I left long before I was an anarchist. I joined when the party was quite new and I had hopes that this will be a parliamentary party, kind of the Green Party of my generation. But when they got into regional parliaments (including in the capital) and nothing happened, I was disillusioned. It took less than a legislative period for them to loose momentum and don’t make it to any parliament anymore, at least in the country I live in. I never believed in parties outside of parliament. In the past, I felt that voting only works when you vote for a party in parliament, now I still vote but think change comes through pressure from the street, including direct action and mutual aid.
This together with the understanding of direct democracy that didn’t really work that way. I spare you the anecdote of a guy who used this phrase to malign a project that was open for everyone but he wasn’t engaged enough to participate so he called it intransparent.
Also I left town and didn’t watch out for the new local chapter.
Yeah, I’m with you
It was a clusterfuck of too many voices, without fulfilling their own real goal of self resolving, when we don’t need parties anymore, but have real direct basic democracy
As said, I still think, this is the way to go at the moment, but I’m just so fed up with party politics - as it seems you’re as well…
Our experiences don’t differ that much actually
I’ve been shortly part of a EU lobby org to fight for net freedom - and I still support them, as I see more success there, than in the national clown show…