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    I always think of Somalia as more the conservative’s paradise. Guns and religion everywhere, small government, low taxes.

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    Anarchism is when UN Intervention shatters a country’s interior and international arms dealers freely trade weapons to local warlords in exchange for looted mineral wealth and trafficked captives.

    Also, anarchism is when tribal communities attempt to replicate the success of larger Muslim nations through the strict imposition of Islamic Law.

    Although, in fairness…

    Xeer is a polycentric legal system where there is no monopolistic institution or agent that determines what the law should be or how it should be interpreted.

    is at least closer to the mark than most Western interpretations.

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      I think the pirate parties idea to go through real basic democracy, so society can form the rules it lives in, and can abolish parties, while remaining representative I give my vote, is still the best road to real utopian anarchy.

      I was an anarchist, before being part of the pirate party - but I’ve left quite some time ago, because party politics just make me sick

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        To be clear, I left long before I was an anarchist. I joined when the party was quite new and I had hopes that this will be a parliamentary party, kind of the Green Party of my generation. But when they got into regional parliaments (including in the capital) and nothing happened, I was disillusioned. It took less than a legislative period for them to loose momentum and don’t make it to any parliament anymore, at least in the country I live in. I never believed in parties outside of parliament. In the past, I felt that voting only works when you vote for a party in parliament, now I still vote but think change comes through pressure from the street, including direct action and mutual aid.

        This together with the understanding of direct democracy that didn’t really work that way. I spare you the anecdote of a guy who used this phrase to malign a project that was open for everyone but he wasn’t engaged enough to participate so he called it intransparent.

        Also I left town and didn’t watch out for the new local chapter.

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          Yeah, I’m with you

          It was a clusterfuck of too many voices, without fulfilling their own real goal of self resolving, when we don’t need parties anymore, but have real direct basic democracy

          As said, I still think, this is the way to go at the moment, but I’m just so fed up with party politics - as it seems you’re as well…

          Our experiences don’t differ that much actually

          I’ve been shortly part of a EU lobby org to fight for net freedom - and I still support them, as I see more success there, than in the national clown show…

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    Anarchism has the converse branding problem of communism. People understand too well what anarchy is to be able to engage with your brand of anarchism. Compared to communism which has the issue where it’s a flip of a coin whether someone knows it only as a buzzword

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              Somalia is in chaos, not anarchy. There are people in Somalia trying to create order by organizing their communities to protect the most vulnerable people in their society.

              If you want to understand how Somalia became chaotic, you have to understand that the great northern empires sank it into chaos to exploit those very same vulnerable people. In particular, the colonial empires of Italy, and the United Kingdom saw Somalia as a fueling point for their coal and later diesel fired ships. The period of decolonization, much like in Uganda, was abrupt leaving a power vacuum creating chaos. A colonial power cannot just abandon a colony for it to be free after stealing all of its wealth and killing all of its elders. Good faith efforts towards reparations must be made

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                You’re a different person, but I understand what you’re saying, and it doesn’t really change what I said. I separated anarchy and anarchism to delineate the different topics but it seems as though people here don’t ascribe the definition of anarchy to the word, beyond politics. You guys trying to reclaim it or something?

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                  yeah reclaiming the word anarchy has been an ongoing process for a long time. especially now that the words we’d been using (social libertarian and such) have been poisoned it’s just easier in anarchist spaces to use the old words

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                  You’re a different person

                  True, but I agree with the other person.

                  I separated anarchy and anarchism

                  This wasn’t clear to me and it doesn’t make much sense in my opinion. Of cause anarchists want anarchy. These words are too closely linked to disentangle them. Some people use a different word for anarchy as in chaos but I would say that anarchy is a broad word meaning “no ruler” which does include states (pun intended) of chaos (tho not war lords because they are also rulers) but also people ruling themselves in councils or what ever. This can be very organized and even conservative (in the sense of difficult to change) but also dynamic and fluctuating.

                  You guys trying to reclaim it or something?

                  Yes. I use “anarchism” when both words would work but it’s “anarchy” we ultimately want. Anarchism is the school of thought or movement.