wtf, Texas

Is even this politicized?

It may never be known exactly how many Texas women have died as a result of the state’s abortion restrictions … And the state is not trying to find out. The Texas Maternal Mortality and Morbidity Review Committee, the body responsible for investigating maternal deaths, has announced it is not investigating cases from 2022 and 2023, including the immediate aftermath of the state’s almost-total abortion ban.

  • cannon_annon88@lemmy.today
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    1 day ago

    Is even this politicized?

    The answer is yes. They are treating ours and our children’s lives as nothing more than pawns.

    And of course, when the Republicans do heinous shit, they also make sure to shut down or suppress the institutions that are responsible for keeping track of and reporting this information. All so they can have a few more of those green papers and have enough plausible deniability to not disgust their base into turning against them.

    Fuck these people. And fuck the doctors too that follow these bullshit laws they know are morally wrong. Just fucking sitting on their hands and letting people fucking die for no good reason. I hope they never get good sleep for the rest of their lives, knowing they could and should have done more.

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      6 hours ago

      So you’re saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?

      Because that’s what you’re proposing here, functionally. OB/Gyns are already leaving these states in droves because of these bans and it’s leaving massive maternal care deserts across the South. There are already millions of people living in areas without OB/Gyn care within 100 miles drive, and now critical access rural hospitals are closing. Also, OB/delivery services are the first thing on the chopping block for budget cuts at struggling hospitals because 41% of births in America are covered by Medicaid. This number is substantially higher in the areas that are also affected by healthcare deserts meaning that up to 90-100% of births might be covered by Medicaid in some of these rural hospitals. With the Medicaid cuts, that means that the hospital loses thousands of dollars for every baby born there when they’re already deep in the red.

      Your “all or nothing” approach to what physicians should be doing leaves absolutely no consideration for the secondary effects of such actions. If providing one abortion meant the complete loss of an OB/Gyn physician to a community, the tradeoff simply is not worth it. There are so many things that can go wrong with pregnancy and delivery that are not fixable with abortion (and what if it’s a wanted pregnancy?). Depriving communities of qualified physicians is a death sentence for many women that will then be unable to access the prenatal care that could have saved their life.

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        So you’re saying all of the OB/Gyns in abortion ban states should give up their license and likely go to prison thereby leaving all pregnant patients without care?

        Nope, I didn’t say that.

        I’m saying these people should operate by the oath they made to do no harm. I’m saying I wish someone would take a stand and help someone that needs it, so they don’t just sit there and die for no good reason.

        If they lose their license and go to jail for helping someone, then the laws are truly unjust and should not be followed. Maybe it would bring more attention to this shit instead of just letting people die, having our institutions not report it, and only a small handful of people ever seeing this article. Maybe there would be a lot more articles about the doctor that got arrested for saving someone’s life. And if people can’t get the care from that physician that was arrested for saving someone’s life, that is the state’s problem. It’s not the Doctors fault for sticking to the words they swore everyone they would live by. Maybe something would happen instead of everyone just sitting idly by and letting shit keep getting worse. Maybe one Doctor inspires more Doctors to do the same. They can’t arrest all the Doctors.

        If I was a doctor in one of these states, I would absolutely risk my career for this. Wouldn’t you? It is cowardice not to. If they want to arrest all the Doctors and cause the rest to flee the state, leaving their citizens vulnerable, that is the state’s fault for pushing this archaic bullshit down our throats. They should have thought of the consequences before passing laws telling doctors to stop giving people healthcare! In my opinion, doctors being scared to lose their licenses and just letting people die instead shouldn’t be doctors anymore.

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          4 hours ago

          The original Hippocratic oath forbids abortions. So do many of the modern versions. There are plenty of physicians that keep true to that oath.

          And if people can’t get the care from that physician that was arrested for saving someone’s life, that is the state’s problem

          Yes, and when informed of the fact that it is responsible for the lives of its’ citizens, the state said “lol no” and went right back to dismantling every single system constructed to support human life in this country.

          We have already seen GOP state congresses overturn the will of the voters. No amount of outcry or protest will reverse the course of arresting and persecuting physicians and women involved with abortion care will ever overcome the gerrymandering. You’re advocating for physicians throwing away everything they’ve worked for their whole lives for a single patient in a way that will also leave all of their other patients without care.

          I know you are passionate and vehement about this, but unless you’re in the position to trade your entire life for this one ethical principle without regard for all of the knock-on effects, your opinion means extremely little to those who are in that position.

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      The victims are the disenfranchised minorities. The doctors (sometimes) are intimidated into compliance because they don’t want to be held liable.

      Texas has some of the most lax gun laws… just saying