The underdog Maine candidate, who has risen in polls, told NBC News he wants to carry on the legacy of Bernie Sanders and push Democrats to be more aggressive.
I can see a very intoxicated group of young marines in a foreign port making a poor decision and getting a cool looking tattoo together without really thinking what it means.
Yeah, I think this the most likely scenario, I just don’t believe it was never realized it was also a Nazi thing. There’s even a deleted Reddit thread where they’re discussing the totenkopf, and he comments on soldiers using the Punisher skull iconography without knowing where it comes from. There’s just no way he didn’t realize, at any point, that his tattoo was also a Nazi tattoo.
Yeah he might have known, but at the same time, does it reflect who he is now and what he stands for?
Briefly circling back to the whole “iconography” topic, I think symbols do hold power, but the nature and scope of that power are determined by individuals. I also think that an effort should be made to reclaim these symbols for a more pro-human message (admittedly difficult to do for a skull and crossbones) because I believe it takes away messaging and in group camaraderie between bigots.
As for Platner, he has a past, but if we can’t look at who he is today and how he has grown as a person, what hope is there for any of us? I won’t make the claim that I haven’t said or believed wrong things, and even failed to grow when first confronted, but eventually I did begin to deconstruct, as I got older and experienced life.
On top of that, the alternative choice is 78 year old Susan Collins or equally decrepit, but Republican, Janet Mills. I think Democrats are having a “Tea Party” moment with the new progressive push by people like Platner and Mamdani.
On a side note: it’s refreshing to have a nuanced conversation online with anothet human, instead of a bot programmed to scream the most extreme position. I just migrated from reddit after being banned from r/Seattle because I suggested that the homeless problem will get worse if we don’t address the glaring structural issues. I got in an argument and got called a junkie, so I abandoned reddit altogether.
Yeah, agree on all points. Personally, I’ve been getting a little sick of the discourse on the left about Platner. A lot of people’s take has become, “fuck Platner, he’s a Nazi, he’s gonna be the next Fetterman,” and it doesn’t go any further than that. If you’re skeptical of Platner, fair enough, but then you have to articulate a better alternative. Do you think Mills would be safer? Is there another leftist to support? If you don’t have a better vision, that’s just doomerism, and at that point, you’re just doing the fascists’ work for them.
I am getting tired of it as well. It sustains itself on the circular logic of “Platner isn’t literally perfect in every way, despite clearly advocating pro working class policies, so I guess I’ll just keep voting for the very anti-working class polices of another ancient establishment Dem”.
The fetterman comparison is so hollow on deeper inspection, which the opposition doesn’t want you to do. Fetterman was an establishment dem with an active political career before running for Senate and his opponent was an actual snake oil salesman.
Platner had no political ambitions before starting this campaign, and very clearly shows how an actual real person that isn’t a psychopath practices politics.
It finally feels like the working class is waking up from the neocon induced haze shat out by Ronny Rayguns.
Yeah, I think this the most likely scenario, I just don’t believe it was never realized it was also a Nazi thing. There’s even a deleted Reddit thread where they’re discussing the totenkopf, and he comments on soldiers using the Punisher skull iconography without knowing where it comes from. There’s just no way he didn’t realize, at any point, that his tattoo was also a Nazi tattoo.
Yeah he might have known, but at the same time, does it reflect who he is now and what he stands for?
Briefly circling back to the whole “iconography” topic, I think symbols do hold power, but the nature and scope of that power are determined by individuals. I also think that an effort should be made to reclaim these symbols for a more pro-human message (admittedly difficult to do for a skull and crossbones) because I believe it takes away messaging and in group camaraderie between bigots.
As for Platner, he has a past, but if we can’t look at who he is today and how he has grown as a person, what hope is there for any of us? I won’t make the claim that I haven’t said or believed wrong things, and even failed to grow when first confronted, but eventually I did begin to deconstruct, as I got older and experienced life.
On top of that, the alternative choice is 78 year old Susan Collins or equally decrepit, but Republican, Janet Mills. I think Democrats are having a “Tea Party” moment with the new progressive push by people like Platner and Mamdani.
On a side note: it’s refreshing to have a nuanced conversation online with anothet human, instead of a bot programmed to scream the most extreme position. I just migrated from reddit after being banned from r/Seattle because I suggested that the homeless problem will get worse if we don’t address the glaring structural issues. I got in an argument and got called a junkie, so I abandoned reddit altogether.
Yeah, agree on all points. Personally, I’ve been getting a little sick of the discourse on the left about Platner. A lot of people’s take has become, “fuck Platner, he’s a Nazi, he’s gonna be the next Fetterman,” and it doesn’t go any further than that. If you’re skeptical of Platner, fair enough, but then you have to articulate a better alternative. Do you think Mills would be safer? Is there another leftist to support? If you don’t have a better vision, that’s just doomerism, and at that point, you’re just doing the fascists’ work for them.
I am getting tired of it as well. It sustains itself on the circular logic of “Platner isn’t literally perfect in every way, despite clearly advocating pro working class policies, so I guess I’ll just keep voting for the very anti-working class polices of another ancient establishment Dem”.
The fetterman comparison is so hollow on deeper inspection, which the opposition doesn’t want you to do. Fetterman was an establishment dem with an active political career before running for Senate and his opponent was an actual snake oil salesman. Platner had no political ambitions before starting this campaign, and very clearly shows how an actual real person that isn’t a psychopath practices politics.
It finally feels like the working class is waking up from the neocon induced haze shat out by Ronny Rayguns.