• unknownuserunknownlocation@kbin.earth
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    4 days ago

    OK. I was abused by a woman. And know of many cases of abusive women (men too, but we’ve already decided in this context that all men are dangerous, so that’s beside the point). So this means all women are dangerous, too?

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      unfortunately yeah

      do women statistically commit as many violent and/or sexual crimes? no. but some still do

      I’ve been made fun of (lightly, but still) for letting friends know when I’m going home with a strange woman (which I shouldn’t do at all but do anyway for various reasons). Strangers are strangers, you never fuckin know

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        do women statistically commit as many violent and/or sexual crimes? no. but some still do

        Even that assumption I’ve started questioning. My abuser never appears in any crime statistics, because it’s not particularly easy to prosecute a case that is mostly based on psychological torture, since the crimes are hard to prove, easily dismissed as “just a bit of nasty behavior” and have relatively short times within which they have to be reported in order to be prosecuted, depending on the country you’re living in. If on top of that you’re a man and the abuser is a woman, have fun getting anyone in charge to legitimately believe your story. It doesn’t diminish the violence that occurred, I just barely survived it.

        Certain kinds of abuse are vastly underreported. Domestic, psychological and sexual violence (which are not exclusive categories, by the way) belong to these kinds of abuses. Some statistics say northwards of 40% of domestic abuse victims are men, for instance. Well at that point, we’re kind of close to parity.

        So let’s focus on reducing violence entirely. Because another thing I’ve learned: while the individual elements of abuse tend to differ between men and women, the patterns are almost always very similar.

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          Yeah. It’d be nice if people could just… stop fuckin abusing each other. Gender differences are part of the conversation but we should be discussing it in ways that raise awareness and equip people to recognize, report, and reduce violence. Not in ways that just cause more fuckin arguing and division. Which isn’t easy. I certainly have fucked up my rhetorical approach to these things, I think. But we should try, at least :(

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            Eh, that will only be possible with…

            …the extinction of humanity entirely.

            Or modification of humanity.

            Humans are naturaly just awful chimps.

            Does this explain why people 100% trust and love their cat.

            Then they go to work as a manager, managing their human resources, never uttering a nice word.

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        do women statistically commit as many violent and/or sexual crimes? no. but some still do

        The statistics cannot be trusted so long as it’s based on prejudistic data.

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      Interestingly, the most violent relationships are lesbian, the least violent are gay men.

      Hetero falls in the middle.