• PoastRotato@lemmy.world
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    22 hours ago

    You’re right, the Democrats chose to ignore what the Michigan voters were telling them. And in response, Michigan voters didn’t vote for Democrats, and the world got objectively worse as a result, because Trump was elected to office.

    Democrats failed their constituents. And the constituents who didn’t vote out of protest allowed Trump to become president and make the world worse–even knowing that he was the worse option. Both of these things are true. We don’t have to pretend like it’s one or the other.

    • 0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      1 hour ago

      Sorry to burst your bubble. The world is detaching itself from an evil empire. The world is healing.

      The stuff your evil empire is doing is nothing new. Check on your history. The decoupling of vassal states is very new. They’re finally speaking out against the puppeteer.

      But but but… wait, that’s not being empathetic toward your suffering, but you’re fine with framing genocide of people abroad as checks note lesser evil.

      US losing relevance in global stage IS a lesser evil in a bigger picture, not worse.

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      22 hours ago

      You can blame voters till the cows come home.

      But blaming voters doesn’t translate into a credible electoral strategy. You can’t “move” voters in the course of a campaign. You can only adapt to where voters are at. Thats literally what a campaign is.

      I just… Its exasperating constantly trying to explain to people that their resentment towards voters doesn’t add up to a process which can win an election. Blue MAGA not wanting voters to behave how they actually behave in the real world, its truly a mental disorder, and it doesn’t do anything to further Democrats ability to win elections. It does the exact opposite.

      No matter how hard people dig their heels in regarding how voters should vote, it doesn’t matter, because thats not how voters do voting. And if you base your premise on how you think things should be instead of how things actually are, well, thats how you hand two very easily winnable elections to Trump. Want to keep losing elections? Keep blaming voters and expecting different results.

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              12 hours ago

              Harris wasn’t offering a better life. She was offering the status quo. Trump actually was offering a better life to his voters. He lied. But he was offering a better life. His whole campaign premise was, “let’s improve the lot of white people by deporting and repressing brown people.”

              Trump offered people a better life. Harris offered nothing. And Trump won as a result.

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                10 hours ago

                I mean literally. Trumps argument was basically “I understand you have economic pain, and its all these guys fault. Remember how things were before that global catastrophe? I’ll make it like that again.”

                And Harris’ argument was “No, you don’t actually feel economic pain. You’re just delusional and if you vote for me, nothing will fundamentally change.”

                This moment on the view. Its beyond a ‘please clap’ moment like Jeb!. It was such a preposterous softball, and delivered by the interviewer in such a gentle way. Its like watching a kids sports game, where they spend so much time lining up for the penalty kick on goal, and then proceed to kick it out of bounds.

                This person has no place in politics.