I was literally banned from Communities I’ve been joined since 2007, that is Freenode , now Libera, and OFTC IRC public networks.
Netops just K-line people who raise LLM/AI issues over human effort, and even if you heat a single channel.
If you get in a trouble by protecting yourself against an LLM lover/troll in popular public channels, you get muted or banned. If you do it again, you get k-lined, regardless of how many channels you are in, and your reputation.
They won’t care about your past, your contribution amount for all the years, or that you have literally no issues and are totally supportive in other channels. They see you heat a channel, regardless the reason, they k-line you for a week/month or so, the most possible event.
I lost trust in some very known IRC network, and I now regret all the years I invested there. There are awesome, freaking marvelous people. Yet, the administrators and operators, who are friends with the netops, are ruining the whole network, and the communities like Linux, PHP, Javascript, Typescript, Networking, I wholeheartedly believe.
There’s hope there are still networks with actually Catalyst beliefs. And your years of helping people in chats, technically or psychologically, will actually stay valued throughout some few year at least… A ban for a quick heated issue? A k-line for a single channel issue with 30+ joined? This is inhuman.
In 2010 Freenode, it was the most welcoming and awesome public place to chat, find miracles, discover knowledge and stay social with people in similar subjects. Today? It’s just toxic, inadequate, and is maintained by sad people who probably, considering the age since my participation since 2007, have no children and love power, since this is where they feel themselves worthy.
I believed at least chats and forums will stay more human, where you could escape from the politics. I believed at least social networks that are not-so managed by popular vendors, will keep it more human…
IRC is centralized. If you use IRC, you must trust it. You must trust the Netops. Yet, as I mentioned, since 2007, in around 2024, I lost trust in Libera, unfortunately, since there are incredible, ingenious and awesome people…
In more legally supervized networks, like Discord/Slack/Telegram/StackOverflow chats, and systems like LinkedIn/GitHub you still may get a proper and accountable response from the administration. You still may comment on it in public and receive a fair attitude in response, and one of the reasons is that these do care about their public stance and reputation.
I donated to Libera, around 540 Euro or so, I believe, for all the years. And what? They could not care less.
Yet, I’ve been with Discord Nitro since 2017, and with all 4 cases I had there, they responded responsibly and carefully. Thank you, Discord support.
And, of course! Steam! Steam support is one of the most accountable I know, if considered the ratio popularity/responsibility, too!
If we consider IRC only here, nowadays, indeed, it’s just some people got indifferent and hateful. And especially those who have some kind of responsibility. These people, including Netops mentioned above, likely have less time to moderate and just remove people from their life.
Yes, of course, it’s normally just either lack of time of responsible people who moderate it. Or, they have personal issues like lack of children they wished but could not organize their life for it, dreams or wished tasks undone etc. And of course, the time today flies, and with so many information flying all the peoples’ lives, it’s a sure possible reason the overall moderation in non-supervized systems like IRC is just almost inhuman most of the times.
LLM/AI trends do not support them, but increase their moderation time against bots, and leave less time for actual human attitude, so they just remove actual people. block them, annihilate other from their lives. Just because it’s easier.
Yet, these, now banned, are still people, who just try to talk, discover, and stay supportive/human online. Who are not biomass to just throw away. These are people who you can talked with and find solutions together.
So, please be careful… on any network/system with lack of proper legal transparency that would protect you from power-hungry people, or just as a customer.
I am ~40, and nowadays I regret my choices choosing such venues that just dropped me as a biomass regardless my finite time participating and being supportive.
It’s not about communication or human there today, I believe…
I regret my precious life time investing in there…
Not only that, but people changed, I believe.
I was literally banned from Communities I’ve been joined since 2007, that is Freenode , now Libera, and OFTC IRC public networks.
Netops just K-line people who raise LLM/AI issues over human effort, and even if you heat a single channel.
If you get in a trouble by protecting yourself against an LLM lover/troll in popular public channels, you get muted or banned. If you do it again, you get k-lined, regardless of how many channels you are in, and your reputation.
They won’t care about your past, your contribution amount for all the years, or that you have literally no issues and are totally supportive in other channels. They see you heat a channel, regardless the reason, they k-line you for a week/month or so, the most possible event.
I lost trust in some very known IRC network, and I now regret all the years I invested there. There are awesome, freaking marvelous people. Yet, the administrators and operators, who are friends with the netops, are ruining the whole network, and the communities like Linux, PHP, Javascript, Typescript, Networking, I wholeheartedly believe.
There’s hope there are still networks with actually Catalyst beliefs. And your years of helping people in chats, technically or psychologically, will actually stay valued throughout some few year at least… A ban for a quick heated issue? A k-line for a single channel issue with 30+ joined? This is inhuman.
In 2010 Freenode, it was the most welcoming and awesome public place to chat, find miracles, discover knowledge and stay social with people in similar subjects. Today? It’s just toxic, inadequate, and is maintained by sad people who probably, considering the age since my participation since 2007, have no children and love power, since this is where they feel themselves worthy.
I believed at least chats and forums will stay more human, where you could escape from the politics. I believed at least social networks that are not-so managed by popular vendors, will keep it more human…
IRC is centralized. If you use IRC, you must trust it. You must trust the Netops. Yet, as I mentioned, since 2007, in around 2024, I lost trust in Libera, unfortunately, since there are incredible, ingenious and awesome people…
In more legally supervized networks, like Discord/Slack/Telegram/StackOverflow chats, and systems like LinkedIn/GitHub you still may get a proper and accountable response from the administration. You still may comment on it in public and receive a fair attitude in response, and one of the reasons is that these do care about their public stance and reputation.
I donated to Libera, around 540 Euro or so, I believe, for all the years. And what? They could not care less.
Yet, I’ve been with Discord Nitro since 2017, and with all 4 cases I had there, they responded responsibly and carefully. Thank you, Discord support.
And, of course! Steam! Steam support is one of the most accountable I know, if considered the ratio popularity/responsibility, too!
If we consider IRC only here, nowadays, indeed, it’s just some people got indifferent and hateful. And especially those who have some kind of responsibility. These people, including Netops mentioned above, likely have less time to moderate and just remove people from their life.
Yes, of course, it’s normally just either lack of time of responsible people who moderate it. Or, they have personal issues like lack of children they wished but could not organize their life for it, dreams or wished tasks undone etc. And of course, the time today flies, and with so many information flying all the peoples’ lives, it’s a sure possible reason the overall moderation in non-supervized systems like IRC is just almost inhuman most of the times.
LLM/AI trends do not support them, but increase their moderation time against bots, and leave less time for actual human attitude, so they just remove actual people. block them, annihilate other from their lives. Just because it’s easier.
Yet, these, now banned, are still people, who just try to talk, discover, and stay supportive/human online. Who are not biomass to just throw away. These are people who you can talked with and find solutions together.
So, please be careful… on any network/system with lack of proper legal transparency that would protect you from power-hungry people, or just as a customer.
I am ~40, and nowadays I regret my choices choosing such venues that just dropped me as a biomass regardless my finite time participating and being supportive.
It’s not about communication or human there today, I believe…
I regret my precious life time investing in there…
Well yeah you got banned for being a bot.
And this is why it’s a sad time to live…
You no better, and hence, fck you, too, moron.