• wpb@lemmy.world
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        10 hours ago

        You need a source for the fact that a euro spent on American weapons is a euro you can no longer spend on reversing the dismantling of socialized health care that has been going on since the 80s in pretty much every single EU country? Do you need a source for object permanence too?

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          Good news, socialized healthcare is cheaper than non-socialized healthcare.

          Several EU governments spend LESS money (as a percentage of GDP) on healthcare than the US does, while having universal healthcare. That’s quite literally not counting the part that Americans pay out of pocket or for their private insurance, just what the US government pays for the few programs it does have (Medicare, Medicaid, veterans, etc). Add in everything the American citizens themselves pay and not a single country spends as much.

          In the Baltics we’ve been consistently hitting 3-4% in recent years despite the target being 2% (which most countries are barely hitting). We have socialized healthcare. Poland is now leading the pack around 4.5%, they still have socialized healthcare.

          Russia’s waging a literal war, has military spending over 6% of GDP and still has universal healthcare.

          The US itself could easily afford universal healthcare. Insurance companies, hospitals and even many doctors don’t want it because they’d all make less money.

          So again, source that socialized healthcare will be dismantled because of a slight increase in military spending?

          The real danger to social systems in the developed world is the aging population resulting in the tax base shrinking.

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            oh and get this, EU/Uk also have private healthcare if patients see wait times are too long, USA only, through propaganda only see this as black and white, they dont think you can have universal/low pay, free healthcare and private healthcare at the same time. dental care is different though, it mostly out of pocket for most people.

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              9 hours ago

              Yup. I’ve only ever needed this to see a psychiatrist about my ADHD personally. It’s expensive (still much cheaper than the US), but you get an appointment in a week or 2.

              And the drugs they prescribe are still covered by the national healthcare system so once the treatment plan is in place, you visit the expensive doctor once or twice a year and get prescription refills through your GP (no need for a visit and the visit is free anyway), doesn’t end up costing too much in the long run.