cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/36774531
Northern Vermont went all in on Trump because of his border promises. Then came the changes voters here weren’t anticipating.
By Will Bredderman
09/26/2025 05:55 AM EDT
“We needed change,” said Denis Boucher, a reluctant 2024 Fuckhead voter who said he couldn’t recall who he backed in 2020. “I don’t know if we needed this much change.”
Sure buddy. We know who you fucking voted for. Eat a dick.
In his defense, maybe he was blackout drunk or stoned off his ass.
Not an excuse, but still.
Haha, very true. I shouldn’t go straight to the worst possible scenario.
Why the fuck did people from northern Vermont give a shit about the border? Were they upset about Canadian immigrants or did they really think that Mexicans were hopping the wall and then hitchhiking a thousand miles?
I grew up in northern Vermont. There are a lot of people who simply don’t know anything about what happens in the world - Vermont is very much like The Shire that way. The internet is unreliable and I grew up on DSL on copper lines from 1920, so FM radio is incredibly popular. Same with satellite TV. There’s also a massive drug problem and large-scale unemployment, because Vermont (without me passing judgment here) is fairly anti-industry and doesn’t have a lot of economic opportunities, especially up north in more rural areas like the NEK.
When all you have is people on the radio telling you the opiods ravaging your town are being smuggled from Canada and maybe 200 people in your town total who all listen to the same radio station, it’s really easy to believe whatever you’re told. It’s just ignorance, not of the willful kind but the naive kind. VT is the second whitest state in the union and people will frequently literally almost never meet a black person, and so racism can be a real problem just out of pure naivity.
Vermont is, in many ways, the land that time left behind in the 40s and they’re kind of only considered progressive because of UVM/Burlington and because they love weed, lol.
I do love aspects of Vermonters’ heartiness and sense of community, but it has real downsides as well. /rant
Still not as bad as NH though!
As a frequent traveler to NH, I have seen a Nazi flag or two and/or other sketchy supremacy flags outside a super rural house or two. I have never seen that in VT personally, which does not mean such a thing does not exist.
Rural NH does seem a bit more…different…than rural VT.
Fox news was playing up illegal immigration (remember the caravan?), and people are susceptible to propaganda.
Bring back the Fair Doctrine Act.
We should try it at the state level; there’s got to be something we can do.
From the article, the claim is worry about drugs from Canada.
A young man living at one trailer we visited, who was granted anonymity to protect himself and his job, fit the profile: After a few more years working on a vast maple operation — where he said he often put in 70 hours a week — he said he planned to return to his hometown in Mexico. He said he arrived a few weeks after the April raid, having flown into Rhode Island last year for a seasonal job in Newport. He then relocated first to New Hampshire and then to Vermont, pursuing rumors of work.
Not all immigrants hop the border wall.
Most don’t, but most people staunchly anti immigrant don’t know that.
Of course, most immigrants are in the country legally, and are better behaved than natural citizens. Anti-immigrants don’t want to know that, either.
Do these religious people just not read certain passages from the Bible? Like it is a fnord that they must skip over?
Never skip over the fnords. Your eyes need to always be open for them.
Bold of you to assume most of them have ever read anything of substance, including their bible.
I think it’s weird for non-believers to have an opinion about true Christianity, or correct Bible interpretation. My policy is that anyone who says they’re Christian is. And Christian character is how those people behave. I certainly prefer Liberation Theology to Prosperity Gospel, but I’ve no opinion about who’s reading the Bible “better”.
Many abolitionists opposed slavery because of their Christian faith. They said the Bible condemns slavery, and it does. Many slavers supported slavery because of their Christian faith. They said the Bible upholds slavery, and it does. Geographic location (North/South) seems more correlated to Christian practice than the Bible. My conclusion is that Christians can’t find moral clarity in the Bible, therefore it’d be silly for anyone else to look there.
I’ve missed your point, if there was one
Non believers can absolutely have an opinion on Bible interpretation. In fact one of Christianity’s flaws and what has led to its balkanization into innumerable denominations is the idea that only a central religious authority can interpret the Bible for application to daily living.
Also if anyone who says they’re Christian simply is one then that’s not really a true religious philosophy. It’s more a club with no real entry requirements.
There is one central belief in Christianity and it is that belief in Christ is the only path to salvation/heaven. A good person, the best person even, will go to hell if they have heard of but do not believe in Christ.
Christian doctrine has spread this message for millennia, and it and other derivative philosophical thought, has been used to justify countless atrocities around the world.
That should tell you or anyone reading most of why the world is the way it is today.
Religion is open to interpretation just like art. If someone interprets art and feels empowered to be a shitty person then they or the art is wrong. I don’t have to “believe” anything particular about the art to arrive at that conclusion, the same is true for religion.
Now I have Fallout Boy going through my head
