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Continental drift. This was a part of Brazil that broke off and drifted across the ocean. Then it joined up with the rest of Spain, which had broken off from Mexico. That’s why the rest of Spain speaks Mexican.
And France is just a part of Quebec that drifted away.
France was actually two parts of Québec that drifted separately and then rejoined later on. The Paris region lingered in the ocean a bit longer, and people got accustomed to thinking of it as an island. That’s why they named it Île-de-France.
I know it’s a shitpost, but here’s an interesting piece of History:
- Back in the late 15th century, before Christopher Colombus officially discovered the Americas (more on that later), the Portuguese and the Spanish made a Treaty - the Treaty of Tordesillas - where they divided the World in half, each one getting one half of it.
- Whilst making the Treaty, the original proposal was that the dividing line (remember, this was before the first trip around the World) would be a North-South line, located 20 nautical miles East of the Cape Verde Islands (which are just
EastWest of the coast of Africa). With the Portuguese side being to the East of that line and the Spanish side to the West. - The Portuguese refused that location and instead wanted that line 20,000 nautical miles East of the Cape Verder islands, which was what ended up in that Treaty.
- Where is now Brazil is to the East of that line, on the Portuguese side, and the rest of South America is to the West of that line, on the Spanish side
This is why the Portuguese and the Brazilians speak the same language, whilst the rest of South America speaks the same language as the Spanish.
Nowadays it’s actually believed the Portuguese discovered the Americas before Christopher Columbus did (hence explaining the insistence on the location of that line in the Treaty), though there’s also proof that the Vikings discovered the Americas centuries before that.
And the Chinese before that, and what we now consider the native people before that, and tiny sailors from Africa before that.
I havent heard about the african sailors before - can you point me where i could learn Mord about it ?
I will also throw polynesians in - since the sweetpotato had to come from somewhere
There is very little information on them, but they left evidence and stories all over. Off the top of my head
The native Hawaiians maintain that there were people who lived there already when they themselves got to Hawaii. They called them the Menehune. Most modern descriptions label them as an ancient, mythical people but the original Hawaiian descriptions did not portray them this way. They firmly maintained that people lived there before them and they all shared the island for untold generations.
The Olmec colossal heads in Mexico are likely depictions of these people
The Ishak and the Uma, two native people from the Louisiana Coast were tiny, and very very dark brown to black skinned people who did not share cultural or physical similarity with the taller native groups throughout the rest of North America. I know at least one of their stories comes from a time of dramatically different ocean levels. They passed down that when the ocean rises and won’t stop, you have to walk to San Antonio essentially. Compared to elevation maps of a full melt, they are right. They also have stories of the entire bottom half of Louisiana disappearing and eventually showing back up.
One of the oldest stories passed down by the Gunditjmara people of Australia that can reliably be dated and located in Australia, is from 40k years ago. They have older, verifable stories, the oldest being 100k years, but they deal with the sky so scientists say they were in Africa at that time. Though they themselves maintain they were not. They also have stories of tiny seafaring master builders, just like in Hawaii.
Everywhere I’ve mentioned had very ancient, giant structures. In some places, only the foundation remains. Everyone always remembers how deft these people were at building. They were always remembered as being small. They had black skin and African features. They are from so very long ago that they must have come from Africa.
It makes sense that the first successful sailors were tiny. They would need dramatically less space and less food. We already know Africa has an ancient, genetically destinct line of tiny people.
You can’t just Google up any information on any of this unless you already know specifically what you are looking for. Colonized history absolutely will not abide information about a powerful, ancient Africa. The whole of the European historical record is now and has always been, overtly hostile to it, but the proof is everywhere.
You can find it in first accounts, ancient depictions and stories, and absolutely beyond ancient foundations. I mean, even giant Greek and Roman buildings, themselves ancient, have been found to be built on foundations that make the current structures seem young, and the current giant marble works, seem small.
There was a people doing great works all over, a long time ago, and Europe would rather deride it as “ancient aliens”, than the simple, evidence based truth that Africa, all our motherland, was obviously first to the world’s throne.
Did I actually encounter a Hotep in the wild, or is this a well written shitpost? In any case: You not being able to google that is not because of the (existing) white-supremacy, but because it’s just a silly larp. Anyway, if you think this is real and makes you happy, you do you, but no, there is no evidence for a global empire anywhere at any point in time, be it from any continent. If it makes you feel better, there have been huge, rich, powerful empires in Africa and that is pretty much undisputed. I know this was likely just a shitpost, but it does confuse me why people feel the need to spin such tales and seriously believe them.
I never said it was an empire. It was probably just early people really good at building on land so they tried and succeeded building on water, and they happened to be at a daily caloric intake and a generationally coastal diet that made long voyages easier.
Then they just sailed around the world over a few thousand years or ten. Probably on what we would consider boats far far to primitive and small to do it, but nevertheless they did it.
The fact that you needed to build a strawman, the very familiar tones dripping off your words, and that you assumed my race and belittled me for it, speak volumes about your personal isms and beliefs. You are a shining example of how and why this information, when it appears in the geologic and oral record, is treated poorly and promptly discarded.
When did I assume your race? I called you a hotep, but that was referring to the ideology, you could be as white as toast for all I care. I did not build a strawman, you’re saying a population was different from others because they ate different things and due to this they were able to colonize the world? Oral history gets distorted. What geologic fucking history do you have? If you’re referring to what you believe are the foundations of huge buildings, that wouldn’t be geologic evidence if it was built by humans it was probably transported and the geologic differences would have to be looked at in context. Which I’m sure actual geologists have done. (I’m now assuming you’re not shitposting)
You keep building these, you’re gonna scare off the crows!
I think I have seen claims that EVERYBODY made it to the Americas before C Columbus. In no order: the Vikings (might be true)
the Irish
the Romans
the Egyptians
the Basques
the Phoenicians
the Polynesians (probably true)
and, of course, people from AtlantisI once heard a great science presentation using sweet potato genetics to make a timeline of Polynesian island inhabitance and it blew my mind. And since then, there is genetic evidence of S American indigenous DNA in some Polynesian populations.
I also heard that Christopher Columbus tried to secure funding for his expedition, aiming to reach India without sailing around Africa, from the Portuguese Crown before approaching the Spanish one, but he did not obtain the funding.
Some take this as possible evidence that the Portuguese were already aware of a potential territory to the West that would block or complicate the voyage to India via that route.
The Americas are to the west of Europe… 🙂
And to the east, unless you’re a Flat Earther.
No seriously you mixed up East and West.
20,000 nautical miles is well over half of the Earth’s circumference. Where was east and west mixed up in the post? This seems like a “three rights are a left” situation to me.
If you go that way OK but it’s a weird way of saying it.
But Cape Verde is definitely to the West of Africa, not East.
Ah, okay, I wasn’t familiar with Cape Verde’s location, so my brain didn’t even process that part.
Yeah, you’re right on that one. I’ve corrected it now.
I kept checking all the other mentions of East and West but didn’t spot that one.
Did you know that American is also northsouth of Europe? Just go north and ignore the pole, just keep going on a straight line south.
Just go north and ignore the pole,
What’d he do this time?
Look just don’t talk to him. Just don’t.
And to the east. That’s the thing about spheres…
Saw a student once using the term “Port of Guesses” unironically in a final submission.
Like, how do you fuck up that badly that you don’t notice that? I mean obviously it was just laziness, but still.
So now I’ve got a minecraft village named the Port of Guesses in honor of that nonsense lol
Almost as bad as that report for “Youth in Asia”
Or that neurodegenerative disease the elderly get, “old timers”
“They tell us how to run our lives, we run for youth in Asia!”
– Dave Mustaine before proof reading the lyrics of one of the best albums in the history of music
“David Mustaine”
– me before proof reading this comment 🤦🏻😄
“Yeah, they gave it to some kid in china or something”
What does it correspond to?
Euthanasia
For the longest time as a kid I really wanted to know why my church cared so much about Asian kids.
I started saying “US of A” out loud because of internet memeing and one time it slipped during a (non-English) language class. I genuinely didn’t clock why people were laughing. I didn’t register I said that instead of the proper way.
US AND A
VERY NICE
Genuinely - as a non-American - what’s wrong with saying “US of A”?
I meant to write “US and A” like the above comment pointed out 😄 But either way, if inserted out loud while speaking a non-English language, it’s weird. Especially if people you talk to aren’t chronically online, lol. Imagine speaking German and then unironically saying “US and A” in English.
Nothing. I’ve heard it used occasionally for decades.
Because of our American exceptionalism we forgot we were a part OF the americas. So now we are THE USA. Hope that helps.
😘👌🏼
Some people still know how to make shitposts with deep stank .
How to piss off at least three sets of people in one shot.
I blame Afonso Henriques, pictured below
I don’t think I’ve seen a Riddick reference in… my entire life?
But I’ve just watched it, for the first time in about a decade, and then the next day I see a screenshot of it on Lemmy?
Dead internet theory must be real
Pitch Black is worth watching.
The Chronicles of Riddick… meh, Karl Urban delivers though.
Riddick is a dumbass Pitch Black rip off in the guise of the third instalment in a trilogy that never was.Maybe I’m a bot who has been monitoring your entertainment traffic specifically to incept this shit onto your monitor.
Or maybe I just got through a Fast and Furious rewatch and had Vin Diesel’s “This is Brazil!” lodged in my brain, but opted for this picture because it isn’t just him in a wife-beater yelling at Dwayne Johnson.
Maybe it has something to do with the giant red rubber band surrounding it
Ah, yes, the Brazillian Guiana.
Why do they speak “Brazilian” in Portugal? Same reason people in England speak “American”, obviously. Basic history took the day off, I see. 😅
🇺🇸 English
😂
“Brazilian” isn’t a language, just like “American” isn’t a language. Brazil speaks Portuguese, and the US speaks English. Nice try, though.
I’m not “trying” anything. I’ve encountered a lot of websites with Choose Your Language dropdowns where English is represented by Old Glory and not the Union Jack.
Fair enough — many websites do use the US flag as shorthand for English, even though it is technically inaccurate. My point was only that “Brazilian” is not the name of a language: Brazil speaks Portuguese, just as the US speaks English.
🇧🇷 Portuguese.
And in the south of Spain, they speak American. Super weird.
It’s port-of-greece actually
It’s port-port actually. One in latin, the other in celtic.
Makes me imagine a world where colonization happened in reverse. England would be fucked.
I mean prior to the mid 1500s that’s exactly what did happen.
You forgot to ask why there’s a part that speaks English.
They used to be the same country but then the Portuguese got offended for some reason and left. They regret this decision to this day and are commonly known as “the sad ones” n Spain.
