• ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org
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    Don’t forget how this cartoon originated:

    • 2021-01-06: Failed coup by pro-Trump degenerates storming the Capitol (Trump denies involvement but his tweets from the day definitely played a role, as decided during the impeachment proceedings in the following week).
    • 2021-01-08 Trump is banned from Twitter in wake of the scandal.
    • 2021-01-08 Donald Trump Jr. tweets: “We are living Orwell’s 1984. […]” (Yes, shown as Jan 9 shortly after midnight but that’s in UTC)
    • 2021-01-09 Conservative artist Gary Varvel publishes this cartoon.
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      Seriously? Man, I thought it was a satire piece the whole time. This was meant to be taken literally?

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        Yes, it’s by a guy who thinks inciting a violent attempt to overthrow a major democratic institution should be protected as free speech. And did not even come up with the 1984 reference himself, just parroting Don Jr. See this video by Jacob Geller about why such a wide spectrum of people points to Nineteen Eighty-Four, that’s where I got the information from.

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          Well to be fair, the US declaration of independence is quite explicit about the right to revolution being one of the inalienable rights. They spent I think around 20 written lines talking about it.

          We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.–That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security.–Such has been the patient sufferance of these Colonies; and such is now the necessity which constrains them to alter their former Systems of Government. The history of the present King of Great Britain is a history of repeated injuries and usurpations, all having in direct object the establishment of an absolute Tyranny over these States.

          Of course, it doesn’t mean their causes were just or their intentions were good or even that they were much more than an angry mob, but America was literally founded on the idea that a corrupt government should be overthrown by force. What is bad, how it is bad, blah blah blah depends on where you sit and if you value human life or human hierarchy.

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    With the amount of times I see it where it has exactly 0 connections to the book, or is even used by a person arguing for it…

    We really should glue orwel to a stick, with the amount he is turning in his grave we would provide free electricity for everyone and still have some leftover

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    We were assigned that book in my Canadian Prairie school during the 70’s. It was called “Celsius 232.778”. /s

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      Yes. Only it should have been 451° Celsius. It was a mistake in the book name.

      Edit: I was mistaken, it is indeed the temperature of autoignition of the paper. Thank you for replies!

      I will go donate to Wikipedia now

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          average of those two is 449.5, which is 1.5 below 451. like, oh no he missed one of the averages by 1.5 degrees because he asked someone because he himself did not know, and was still within any reasonable margin of error. burn him at the stake.

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            Yeah, it’s the person I was replying to who was saying that Bradbury made a mistake by saying 451°F, and that it should have been 451°C. I cited the range to demonstrate that Bradbury’s number was roughly correct and 451°C is very much not.

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    “Jokes” Who tf is joking about these references, we’re frantically trying to pull the wool from your eyes but its seemingly impossible.

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    Brave New World is so much better than 1984 it hurts

    Plus Orwell is so overrated it’s just silly

    He was essentially a British intelligence asset writing thinly veiled anti communist propaganda.

    Orwells writing often is masquerading as “a commentary on authoritarianism in general” while in reality it was mostly just him hating on the Soviet Union.